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[GS Spoilers] Harry's Power Ups
Rasins:
I'm not sure exactly where this might fit, but I think some of his development of political skill would be a power up. For instance calling in Summer at the end of PG was a master stroke of political manuvering.
Also, would gaining knowledge (proof?) of a Black Council, and that of the Gray Council also be considered power-up?
I would also say that his use of the favors owed to him by Marcone and by Lara Wraith at the end of Changes were power-downs.
(click to show/hide)I think dying is a pretty big power down.
Serack:
--- Quote from: ImpishMortal on June 16, 2011, 04:42:16 PM ---FM - Meets the Alphas and Tera West
SK - Gains Mouse
DM - Is given custodianship of Fidelacchius
WK - Establishes Paranet
SF - Is given custodianship of Amoracchius
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Duh, Mouse, I had thought of that, but it slipped through the cracks while writing. Paranet: Great one! Duno if I would call it an alliance or a marker, but it's a good one. As for the swords... I'm not sure how I think about those... some additional input would be welcome.
--- Quote from: Casterbridge on June 16, 2011, 04:47:47 PM ---GP: Ate Kravos's power RP
Wasn't this only a temporary power up, or does it still count for the purpose of your list?
Also "Word of Kemmler" might be worth considering.
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Some debate that it was temporary. I consider it a permanent Power Up because a) When Kravos got Harry's power it seemed like a capacity increase, he didn't use it up, and it was all still there for Harry to eat back, and b) others saw the taint it left on his power later, which tells me that that was still power he had.
Good one on the Word, I think I will add it as knowledge.
--- Quote from: Rasins on June 16, 2011, 05:28:17 PM ---I'm not sure exactly where this might fit, but I think some of his development of political skill would be a power up. For instance calling in Summer at the end of PG was a master stroke of political manuvering.
Also, would gaining knowledge (proof?) of a Black Council, and that of the Gray Council also be considered power-up?
I would also say that his use of the favors owed to him by Marcone and by Lara Wraith at the end of Changes were power-downs.
(click to show/hide)I think dying is a pretty big power down.
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The political skill I think is also manifested as an overall increase in craftyness, which has shown in more than one senario... I like it, but the general gyst of the "list" has been to point at individual events, and I'm not sure of the best way to put this in the list... I like it though.
As to Marcone and Lara, when would you say that he gained Markers with them that he used in WK? When Harry backed off about the shroud at the end of DM for Marcone? At the end of BR, Lara acted as though she felt used by Harry as a cats paw, not as though she owed him anything... I'll have to reread WK or get more input before I am confident "markers" had been used in this book. The ones up so far are very definate, whereas these are (at the moment) nebulous.
As to the "Black Council" I'd say Harry is still too ignorant on them to say that he has any knowledge that grants him power...
sociotard:
Harry has the swords to empower future allies. They aren't his powerups, and they aren't his allies yet.
Glorificus:
--- Quote from: sociotard on June 16, 2011, 03:32:52 PM ---I'd say those can all probably qualify. It's just a question of demonstrating that Harry gaining or losing the ability to do something.
I'd also say that, since the list is already in a sort of time-line type format, we might put power increases and decreases on the list. Perhaps gain in black and loss in red? So, (going off memory here)
* SF Harry uses up his favor to get a delicious donut
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If you are talking about the Gruff, I thought the donut was to keep him from getting killed. I didn't see the Gruff promising to defend Harry against all comers or give Harry the ability to fly. I thought the donut was to maintain the status quo, keeping Harry alive.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Glorificus on June 16, 2011, 06:03:18 PM ---If you are talking about the Gruff, I thought the donut was to keep him from getting killed. I didn't see the Gruff promising to defend Harry against all comers or give Harry the ability to fly. I thought the donut was to maintain the status quo, keeping Harry alive.
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Red indicated power downs. This would need to be included to counter the line for the favor he when he was given it.
--- Quote from: Rasins on June 16, 2011, 05:28:17 PM --- (click to show/hide)I think dying is a pretty big power down.
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That remains to be seen. Could go in the other direction, based on some things Lash told him.
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