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UmbraLux:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on April 06, 2012, 08:19:03 PM ---Stunts generally work by boosting skills, and skills cap out at 4 boxes.
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Eh...breaking that down shows the obvious fallacy:[*] Proposition: Many stunts boost skills.
[*] Proposition: Stress from skill caps at 4 boxes.
[*] (Fallacious) Conclusion: Stunts can't grant stress boxes beyond what skills can grant.[/list]It's a form of the Hasty Generalization fallacy.
Sanctaphrax:
Please, no formal logic. I got enough of that during my classes this semester, and now that the year is ending I don't want any more.
As I said in the post above, you can also treat an extra stress box as a persistent 1-shift effect. But that has its own problems.
UmbraLux:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on April 08, 2012, 07:40:59 AM ---Please, no formal logic. I got enough of that during my classes this semester, and now that the year is ending I don't want any more.
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I'll make you a deal, avoid using fallacious arguments and I won't call them out. ;)
Seriously. Logic is what separates thinking something through from just jumping to conclusions. If we don't use logic we're doing nothing more than seeing who can "shout loudest and longest" on the internet. Doesn't lead to worthwhile discussions.
Sanctaphrax:
Pretty much all conversational arguments are fallacious when put into formal terms unless you're very generous with implied premises.
I quite like logic, but numbered premises and named fallacies are only for situations where
a) the issue is very important (this includes all math)
or
b) normal conversation has created an incomprehensible mess.
I think I explained my position pretty well earlier. Do you have an issue with it?
UmbraLux:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on April 09, 2012, 04:23:41 AM ---Pretty much all conversational arguments are fallacious when put into formal terms unless you're very generous with implied premises.
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I disagree. But it surprises me to see the statement requesting no formal logic and this... (click to show/hide)
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on April 09, 2012, 04:40:27 AM ---Arguments based on blind assertion are one of the only things on the internet that can actually annoy me.
<snip>
My position on this is a logical extension of...
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...no unsupported assertions request from the same person.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on April 09, 2012, 04:23:41 AM ---I quite like logic, but numbered premises and named fallacies are only for situations where
a) the issue is very important (this includes all math)
or
b) normal conversation has created an incomprehensible mess.
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Logic is just structure - building blocks for reasoning. It's not something special to be saved up. ;)
--- Quote ---I think I explained my position pretty well earlier. Do you have an issue with it?
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Are you referring to your argument for stunts not being allowed to grant stress over four boxes? If so, yes. As pointed out previously, it's a fallacious argument.
That said, I am moving on. No need to derail the thread further.
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