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Offline EdgeOfDreams

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Re: About Kemmler...
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 11:36:29 PM »
The accords are less than 20 years old by the time of Changes, though I don't recall which book pointed that out.  Harry does refer to the accords as the "latest set" of agreements, however.

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2011, 12:03:07 AM »
Hey, he's right. Seems in Proven Guilty Harry mentions that the Unseelie Accords is "the most recent and influential set of principles agreed upon by the various nations of the supernatural maybe ten or twelve years ago."

I suppose it might have just been a refinement of an existing treaty but maybe they just didn't exist. Not a bad answer.

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2011, 02:58:36 AM »
The accords are less than 20 years old by the time of Changes, though I don't recall which book pointed that out.  Harry does refer to the accords as the "latest set" of agreements, however.

Oooooohhhh....  very good catch.

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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2011, 03:51:45 AM »
Personally I think the accords were just updated then - that they have existed for centuries.

But no, I don't have a quote to back that up.

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2011, 04:10:07 AM »
Personally I think the accords were just updated then - that they have existed for centuries.

But no, I don't have a quote to back that up.

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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2011, 11:15:59 AM »
I think it had more to do with the disappearance of a large chunk of land during the Unseelie Incursion.

But I could be wrong about that.

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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2011, 07:41:32 PM »
I think it had more to do with the disappearance of a large chunk of land during the Unseelie Incursion.

The what?

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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2011, 07:47:05 PM »
The what?

The Unseelie Incursion... don't remember the exact details or which book mentions it, but a few years before the series began, there was a major event involving the winter court and an entire U.S. city just vanishing completely for a few hours.

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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2011, 07:57:27 PM »
It's in Storm Front:
Like the Unseelie Incursion of 1994, when the entire city of Milwaukee had simply vanished for two hours. Gone. Government satellite photos showed the river valley covered with trees and empty of life or human habitation. All communications ceased. Then, a few hours later, there it was, back again, and no one in the city itself the wiser.

According to the timeline that someone on the site has made, that more or less corresponds with the last time the Unseelie Accords were updated.

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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2011, 08:33:21 PM »
Aha, I didn't remember that being linked to an Unseelie Incursion (in fact I'd forgotten there was one).

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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2011, 09:51:39 PM »
It's not directly linked - but (as the timeline assembled by one of Jim's early readers points out) it happened at roughly the same time as the Accords were updated.

And it makes sense.  If a Fairy Court makes a city disappear, that probably pointed out a huge loophole in the Accords that the other parties wanted to close - so they negotiated a new version of the existing Accords.

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