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Contrarius:
--- Quote from: Landing on dinoriders on April 08, 2011, 11:01:05 PM ---nope its the warden's swards.WN
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Interesting, thanks for posting that. Although it doesn't say "any" enchantment, so that might give us an out for Luccio's failure to act....
For that matter, if they could actually unravel ANY enchantment -- as that unravelling cloth did in Summer Knight -- then they should be able to "cure" things like the half-turned Red Court vamps. And we know they can't do that, or Harry would've gotten somebody to lay them on Susan already (or something similar). So that makes me think that there are limits to the enchantments they can affect...
ImpishMortal:
--- Quote from: Contrarius on April 08, 2011, 11:25:53 PM ---Interesting, thanks for posting that. Although it doesn't say "any" enchantment, so that might give us an out for Luccio's failure to act....
For that matter, if they could actually unravel ANY enchantment -- as that unravelling cloth did in Summer Knight -- then they should be able to "cure" things like the half-turned Red Court vamps. And we know they can't do that, or Harry would've gotten somebody to lay them on Susan already (or something similar). So that makes me think that there are limits to the enchantments they can affect...
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Maybe it's more along the lines of spells/wards and not necessarily objects/creatures that are magical in nature.
Ms Duck:
well for one thing, when they unravela n enchantment, they don't dispell it. it explodes.. look at the whampire's protection bands.
she may have just looked at the pentagram, done some quick math, and thought ' oh heck no'
parthagenon:
Also, the RC infection may not be so much an enchantment as an alteration in the nature of the being. And even if it was an enchantment, it's a full-body, internalized one- breaking it with a warden's sword would be like trying to surgically destroy every virus in the body to cure a disease.
As for the pentagram, Ms Duck has a pretty plausible explanation. If the enchantment is violently released, slashing blindly through something like that would be somewhat suicidal. Actually, I don't remember off the top of my head, but I don't think Luccio was even there for the climactic battle of SmF. It was just Harry and the Knights on Demonreach, with the rest as backup.
Contrarius:
--- Quote from: par(an)thodon on April 09, 2011, 04:11:42 AM ---Also, the RC infection may not be so much an enchantment as an alteration in the nature of the being.
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It's gotta be an enchantment in some sense, because Harry believed he could have cured Susan by using the unravelling cloth.
--- Quote ---And even if it was an enchantment, it's a full-body, internalized one- breaking it with a warden's sword would be like trying to surgically destroy every virus in the body to cure a disease.
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This is the problem I see. Would the sword have to literally slice through Susan in order to "cure" her? Dunno!
--- Quote ---As for the pentagram, Ms Duck has a pretty plausible explanation. If the enchantment is violently released, slashing blindly through something like that would be somewhat suicidal.
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Maybe, maybe not. Harry broke the pentagram (edited -- sorry, "circle") on the island by laying into it with his staff. As he said "It only takes a monkey with a big stick to take it apart." But that, of course, is assuming that you have access to the physical foundations of the spell.
--- Quote ---Actually, I don't remember off the top of my head, but I don't think Luccio was even there for the climactic battle of SmF. It was just Harry and the Knights on Demonreach, with the rest as backup.
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Right. But they were talking about the Shedd Aquarium, where Luccio was stuck outside while the Denarians were fighting Harry, Kincaid, and Ivy inside.
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