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Unsolved Mysteries Version II
OZ:
--- Quote ---even in the peom, when stan fell from heaven, the dragon in the darkness ( tehob) was there to meet him.
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I know it was a typo but when I first read this I was wondering, Stan who?
To which poem do you refer? Paradise Lost?
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Arkham8 on March 21, 2011, 04:48:25 PM ---How exactly could did Satan get the Fallen in the coins? One would assume that he wasn't powerful enough to get all 30 Fallen in the coins, especially given that Anduriel was his top general. Did Satan get God in on it? Or did Satan somehow trick them into the coins.
I realize that the popular consensus was that Satan just kinda did it, but I highly doubt he had the power to mystically confine and limit 30 of his peers just like that.
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We don't really have a handle on how much stronger archangels are than angels, it's not beyond plausibility to my mind that the thirty Denarians, strongest of their fallen angel peers though they be, are nonetheless, as a combined force, something DV Lucifer the fallen archangel can hold in the palm of one hand.
Given the timing, I can see it having something to do with the Harrowing of hell, either.
sjsharks:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on March 23, 2011, 03:04:52 AM ---We don't really have a handle on how much stronger archangels are than angels, it's not beyond plausibility to my mind that the thirty Denarians, strongest of their fallen angel peers though they be, are nonetheless, as a combined force, something DV Lucifer the fallen archangel can hold in the palm of one hand.
Given the timing, I can see it having something to do with the Harrowing of hell, either.
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Jim has already said that they were bound into their coins because the Devil (Satan/Lucifer/whoever) was worried that they would try to take over, which means that their combined power of all 30 is at least enough to take him down.
Thork:
--- Quote from: sjsharks on March 23, 2011, 03:07:17 AM ---Jim has already said that they were bound into their coins because the Devil (Satan/Lucifer/whoever) was worried that they would try to take over, which means that their combined power of all 30 is at least enough to take him down.
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Maybe not enough to take him down, but at least enough to cause him real trouble.
Ms Duck:
--- Quote from: OZ on March 23, 2011, 02:12:58 AM ---I know it was a typo but when I first read this I was wondering, Stan who?
To which poem do you refer? Paradise Lost?
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Satan; and yes, paradise lost.
prior to the medieval period Satan was not considered to be the devil; Satan iteslf means 'accuser' ; he was god's district attorney..when your soul died, satan would speak your sins upon judgement day and the messiah would act as your defense counsel. The whole satan= the devil thing got started as a mistranslation in revelations.
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