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Unsolved Mysteries Version II
unfilthy:
--- Quote from: Phaeton Seraph on January 15, 2011, 08:07:27 AM ---I had thought it was clear that Molly was taken to Arctic Tor so that Harry would assault it so that Mab could force her own hand back to where she wanted it, despite some outside influence, said outside influence being the reason she was so angry she had her kitty talking for her for so long....
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That's exactly how I understood it too, but then I haven't been subjected to as many theories as the board regulars have ;)
--- Quote from: parthagenon on January 17, 2011, 07:44:21 AM ---So far, the general consensus has been that the Erlking is the most likely culprit for the hexenwulfen belts, but we're not sure.
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Is it just me, or does this just seem like a really odd thing to happen?
I mean, sure, I get the hunting connection, and there's the whole FBI location paralleling the Erlking's lair in the NN, but I personally got the impression that the Erlking was someone who wouldn't bother with such small scale stuff. I mean, he can lead the great hunt and has a whole lot of minion and he's a freaking Faery King, so lots and lots of power, and he seems to enjoy the sportsmanship of it all, so it seems to me like giving a handful of belts to some random FBI agents would be too small time (even lame) for someone of his caliber, if that makes sense.
Anyway, I have a couple of questions.
1. Was Rudolph being influenced by anyone other than the eebs/before the eebs?
I recently re-read GP in which he's explicitly and vocally supportive & protective of Murphy. While his denial regarding his experiences with the supernatural can explain some of his general irrationality and hostility, and his ambitious nature can explain his weaselly behavior and wish to escape into IAD at the expense of the people in SI, he still seems to have changed rather drastically over the years, into something almost rabid, without the corresponding on screen experiences that would explain it. Or maybe some people just don't need a reason to become hateful and nasty.
2. Have we met any Outsiders (other than HWWB)? Are there any Outsiders hanging out in the real world without our knowledge? Could Outsiders even be in the real world in a non-detectable way?
I have a lot of Outsider questions... which reminds me, there are some notions that Harry is meant for a mantle like the Warden (singular), which we don't know much about, or Blackstaff (for which I personally consider Harry to be supremely unsuited), but what about Harry as Gatekeeper?
Also, hi! I'm new (in an "I've been lurking since finishing Changes" kind of way).
Arkham8:
--- Quote from: unfilthy on March 09, 2011, 03:18:56 PM ---Is it just me, or does this just seem like a really odd thing to happen?
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Well, we can assert that he didn't necessarily intend to cause trouble for Dresden in particular. Maybe he was enhancing the hunter aspect of the FBI agents, themselves hunters of criminals. Maybe he was purposely pitting them against Marcone, the man with the soul of the tiger. Maybe he wanted to pit them against the Loup-garou.
Think of it like this. A wholeeeee bunch of werewolves of every flavor all showed up in one city, at one time. Given that wolves embody the spirit of the hunter, I can see the Erkling arranging this for shits and giggles.
unfilthy:
Hmm. I can buy the Wolf Vs Tiger thing as plausible, but thinking about it now, I have to wonder; since when do the Sidhe just give mortals power?
So now I have a revised question:
What was the deal behind providing the FBI with wolf belts (and who/what was involved)?
knnn:
As I understand it, the only real connection between the Erlking and the Belts is that the FBI building in Chicago opens to the NN in the middle of Erl's domain.
IMHO this is really weak because the Erlking doesn't seem to have any interest in Chicago other than generally causing mayham. On the other hand, the guy who gave the belts to the FBI agents specifically warned them about the White Council, and suggested sabotaging the Loup-Garou to cover their tracks. To me this sounds like someone/something with a much more specific agenda.
P.S. Wasn't there some blurb about the agents coming from out of town? That would make the whole NN connection even less relevant.
New looney theory:
Cowl/Marva gave the belts to the FBI agents to cause upheavals (fallout from them going crazy after using the belts) in the Chicago FBI building --> leading to chaos within Erlking's domain --> leading to easier summoning of Erl for the darkhallow.
wardenferry419:
I can go with Cowl having to do alot of prep work for the Darkhallow. The magic drugs, the tormented ghosts, and the spalttercon fearfest are good ways to create a spiritually- heightened state in Chicago.
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