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the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: Snowleopard on January 04, 2011, 03:49:13 AM ---What I don't like is when someone, not so frequent now, does a action type fantasy heroine that is obviously just a guy in a girl suit.
A strong woman does NOT have to be a , pardon the crudity, a ball less guy.

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So, precisely what constitutes a guy in a girl suit ?

I hate, with a passion, stories that assume that some small subculture-specific set of gender roles are universals.

I picked a female POV for the current space-opera project because it felt easier to get in the ways that setting really is gender-egalitarian; a male character thinking so risks failing as being blind to ways in which it's not.

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
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the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
Anyone else reading MLN Hanover's Black Sun's Daughter series ?  Third book is just out of a projected ten, and having done the inital setup it's becoming clear that there's something really interesting being done there with ways for a female character to be strong without being weaponised or an orgiast.

Paynesgrey:

--- Quote from: Snowleopard on January 10, 2011, 02:18:50 AM ---I agree with you N86 - why can't a woman achieve something with more than just sex.  Sigh.
Because I'd heard just this complaint about the Anita Blake tales - I've never gotten into them.
Would just irritate me.

Another thing, which JB does so well - is when he's doing a wise-assed, smart mouthed woman she's just that - a smart ass like Harry.  Too many authors and people who do TV scripts when they write a smart assed woman she turns out to be bitchy not mouthy - and there is a great and obvious deference between the two.

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Lois McMaster Bujold's Cordelia Vorkosigan is a prime example of how to write a smartass, smartmouth and strong woman who isn't just bitchyness disguised as those qualities.  Joss Whedon's brought a number of those to us well.  Small wonder Jim enjoys both. 

Paynesgrey:

--- Quote from: Apocrypha on January 07, 2011, 09:44:57 PM ---It sucks when what sells isn't what's really good.

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That I can raise a glass to.    :D

Although, to find a pony in the pooh, consider all the grist milled vampire books to be a gateway drug to the Good Stuff, introducing and leading a few more young minds to Dresdenoholism....

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