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eberg:

--- Quote from: AlexFallad on December 22, 2010, 02:39:54 AM ---Quick question:  Could Igor also attempted a Declaration here?  Maybe something like Fists vs. Fists that Barry is "Not Used To Putting Up His Dukes" or Fists vs. Athletics "Backpedals In Panic" ?

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No, because Barry is a PC with established Aspects. Declarations are generally for NPCs and such that aren't fully statted out.

AlexFallad:

--- Quote from: eberg on December 22, 2010, 09:06:19 PM ---No, because Barry is a PC with established Aspects. Declarations are generally for NPCs and such that aren't fully statted out.

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I'm not convinced that an established PC is exempt from Declarations, especially if the Ghoul above was replaced with a Martial Artist (as in Fists w/ Martial Artist stunt).  The whole point of Declarations is to create aspects.  Aspects created via Declaration seem to me to be just as valid as other Aspects that are "created" temporarily on established PCs through game mechanics.

devonapple:

--- Quote from: AlexFallad on January 20, 2011, 08:50:03 PM ---Aspects created via Declaration seem to me to be just as valid as other Aspects that are "created" temporarily on established PCs through game mechanics.

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Just as valid, yes. Just as temporary, no. Declarations are assumed to be permanent facts, have always been facts, but have only just now come into focus.

YS 116:
"As with assessments, aspects created with declarations don’t go away after being tagged, so long as circumstances make it reasonable that they hang around. This does mean that occasionally assessments and declarations can backfire on the character establishing them (other characters might use the same aspect, or the GM might bring that aspect back around to complicate the character’s endeavors)."

But that's not the point - the point is: should PCs get Declarations made about them. I think not, but your game may thrive with the option. Especially if your GM doesn't limit characters to only 7 Aspects.

Edit: But oh, heaven help you if your GM's NPCs are fond of making Declarations like "Wall-Eyed," "Skips When Running," "Shoots like a Stormtrooper," or "Broke-Broke."

Daeglan:
Can you use force to throw the ghoul at Voldemort?

AlexFallad:
Well, diving into playing and running has forced me to plow through YS in depth.

1) Page 192, Non-Conflict Actions section clearly states that Declarations can create aspects for an NPC or another PC.
2) Page 98, lasts para before "Using Aspects".  "You will also encounter temporary aspects during the course of play. [Examples follow] Typically, you use your skills to create or discover these aspects during play (see page 113 for more information)."

Page 113 starts a major heading topic called 'Creating And Discovering Aspects In Play' and includes all the information from 113 through 116, and Declarations is in this section.

Clearly Declaration Aspects are temporary.  The text on YS 114 'Temporary Aspects' states that "temporary" has different durations, but certainly not permanent or even worth recording on the char sheet.

3) Incidentally, what skill would you use to Declare someone "Shoots Like a Stormtrooper"?  The Gun Knowledge Trapping on YS 131 seems to indicate knowledge about the guns and ammo ITEMS, not the skill/ability of the shooter.  I can see a Declaration "Using Hollow Points" on an opponent to reduce the effectiveness of their Guns attack and you are wearing decent kevlar armor, but that is a huge difference from the Martial Artist's stunt ability to declare/assess styles.

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