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Luke, *I* am your father...overused?
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Vash on July 15, 2010, 06:24:34 PM ---It may be clitche to have the protagonist and antagonist to be brothers, but it will always be freaking awesome
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Nah. Anything that can be made awesome can also be made to suck.
Vash the white:
--- Quote from: neurovore on July 15, 2010, 06:59:49 PM ---Nah. Anything that can be made awesome can also be made to suck.
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yeah, episode two of star wars is a great example of that
Lurline:
--- Quote from: arianne on July 09, 2010, 05:35:57 AM ---I don't know if a medical condition is a strong enough reason to seek out one's parents, but otherwise this idea seems to fly pretty good :) Thanks.
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Could work in a fantasy setting, especially if your character was raised by a totally different race that doesn't know how to deal with your medical needs. ;)
--- Quote from: neurovore on July 06, 2010, 04:56:40 PM ---
I think that in the Dresden Files Jim is subtly commenting on this in the ways that Harry assumes that being related to someone automatically gives a strong emotional connection with them of a particular and predictable shape; things like Murphy's family do seem to me to make it clear that we are not expected to read Harry's assumptions about the way the world works as how the world in the DF actually works, as it's clearly a different shape of set of relationships that does not work in ways Harry intuitively grasps, by comparison with the Carpenter family dynamic, which he mostly grasps (and somewhat idealises.)
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There's also the Raith family dynamic, with the Dad who doesn't care but wants his kids to be loyal so trained them to care.
arianne:
Would "dad's enemy" be a better cliche than just plain "dad"?
I think the reason so many people use "I am your father/mother/uncle/grandpa/sister" approaches have to do with irony...like, family should love each other, but hey, look! my parents are trying to kill me!
I mean, a story that starts off, "Dad had wanted to kill me for years." is definitely more interesting than one that starts, "The random stranger was trying to kill me; had been for years."
Isn't it? :)
Lurline:
--- Quote from: arianne on July 17, 2010, 03:32:22 PM ---Would "dad's enemy" be a better cliche than just plain "dad"?
I think the reason so many people use "I am your father/mother/uncle/grandpa/sister" approaches have to do with irony...like, family should love each other, but hey, look! my parents are trying to kill me!
I mean, a story that starts off, "Dad had wanted to kill me for years." is definitely more interesting than one that starts, "The random stranger was trying to kill me; had been for years."
Isn't it? :)
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Well there's nothing really new out there... just spend a few hours on TV tropes and you realize it's all been done before. It's how you approach it that makes it good a multi-generational quest/war/fued isn't any more or less done I think. I think it works out either way.
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