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Shecky:
--- Quote from: Niccos Shadow on June 22, 2010, 08:05:50 PM ---I acknowledge the fact that it's possible for someone to read a problem with one of my posts even if I can't imagine what the problem was. I can proof read a post 1,000 times but since we're communicating solely through text, it's not going to guarantee that someone wont find an issue with it. If i do something wrong, I personally have no problem accepting the consequences, but it's only right that I be told what I did wrong. Honestly, I don't know if I've annoyed any mode/admins or not. I've never been contacted directly about anything, but a few debates i was involved in have been generally stepped on. So do I assume I was right and continue on as I was, or do I try to completely change the way I normally explain myself to be on the safe side?
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Don't assume. Never assume. If you can't be certain you're capable of looking at a post objectively, don't make the post. If your grandmother wouldn't call your post rude without knowing it was you, you're probably fine. If she would, then start thinkin'.
Paynesgrey:
If you haven't gotten a PM or had a mod quote your post in Public Smackdown Reply, then you're probably ok, just a bystander who got some splash. Although if your tone of voice was rising along with everyone else's in the thread that got Mod Swarmed, then it'll be a good idea to gentle it down some.
If you have to ask yourself, "Do I need to relax this thing?", then the answer is probably "Yep."
Katty:
--- Quote from: Shecky on June 22, 2010, 06:27:32 PM ---Prejudice. Literally. You're assuming that a major chewing-out of one person who's stepped WAY over the line is going to equate to your getting pissed on if you pose a reasonable, private question to the mod.
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Shecky, this is the crux of the problem, and one that I think the mods are having a hard time understanding. Yes, we think that. I can certainly say I think that. Because the "on-air" modding in the threads tends more towards the heavy handed. (Obvious disclaimer, this is only what I've seen, and I'm sure it's not every moderated thread on here.) It tends towards the snarky. It tends towards the yelling. Is there something wrong with that? Not necessarily, no. Some people aren't going to get it unless you apply the clue by four upside the head. And then get a tank to make sure they got it.
However. That doesn't create a great atmosphere for people to feel like they can PM a mod. I think it's very possible to be as firm as you need to, and still be polite. I'm on another board that does this. If we're not allowed to do something, I don't think the mods should be able to do it in a reply. Even in an administrative reply. THAT is what will build a great relationship between all of us. You don't have to be sweetness and light all the time, but you have to be fair, and you have to be polite.
I do think that's possible. I certainly hope it is. But getting to that point takes time, and requires patience. On both sides.
Niccos Shadow:
--- Quote from: Shecky on June 22, 2010, 07:31:49 PM ---I'd still like to see specific examples instead of broad brushstrokes.
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I'm not trying to start a public lynching. But since you're a mod and it's my hope that this conversation has some positive result, I PM'd you a few examples.
Amber:
--- Quote from: Katty on June 22, 2010, 08:50:05 PM ---Shecky, this is the crux of the problem, and one that I think the mods are having a hard time understanding. Yes, we think that. I can certainly say I think that. Because the "on-air" modding in the threads tends more towards the heavy handed. (Obvious disclaimer, this is only what I've seen, and I'm sure it's not every moderated thread on here.) It tends towards the snarky. It tends towards the yelling. Is there something wrong with that? Not necessarily, no. Some people aren't going to get it unless you apply the clue by four upside the head. And then get a tank to make sure they got it.
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I have personally sent a few notifications, and I always find the mods to be fair and reasonable off-board, even when it seems like they're being heavy-handed and mean on-board. FWIW.
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