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Policy Changes: How do you feel?
Curly:
--- Quote from: Priscellie on June 21, 2010, 12:03:24 PM ---So have at it! How do you feel about the changes?
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I'm disappointed that the mods felt that Touchy Topics was untenable. I enjoyed the banter and the exchange of viewpoints that the board allowed, and I enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere that I felt was given to Touchy Topics by the rest of the forum. I understand the problems involved but I disagree with the solution provided.
I feel slightly nervous about posting now because, although I haven't to my knowledge received a moderator spanking, I feel that my efforts to remain polite may not come across very well, and could easily go unrecognised, when I respond to interpretations of my viewpoints.
As I've said, I don't remember having been reprimanded before and so think that I do not come across as aggressive or insensitive, so I would like to suggest that there are perhaps some posters that are overly sensitive, venture intimate details of their life, open themselves up to criticism that they would rather not receive and then complain about the "treatment" they receive.
I recognise that aggressive and insensitive posters cannot be allowed to bring down the good humour and fun atmosphere of the forum, but I'd like to point out that those who cannot cope with differing opinions on their life choices should also be encouraged to abstain from posting their private distresses, quibbles, philosophies etc if they simply want a chorus of "Seconded"s and "I bow to your touching anecdote"s.
I'm not sure if there's a nice latin phrase for what seems to me like "reverse ad hominem attacks", but it definitely seems like stabbing yourself to shame others into surrender is becoming a favorite tactic for ending a conversation, as it generally sucks the fun out of a conversation just as effectively as diving into another's personal life, but without the effect of being considered a "guilty party".
I like the boards as much as any child in Disneyland, but at some point you have to get away from Mickey, go somewhere less noisy with a glass of wine and some adult conversation. It'd be convenient if that place was in close proximity, but I understand if you don't want it in the park.
Warden John Marcone:
This is what I had to say:
--- Quote from: Warden Jon Marcone on June 21, 2010, 04:58:07 AM ---I'll just stick my two cents into the quiet discussion. I got slapped by the banhammer's softie baby brother the banruler. I know WHY I got slapped by the banruler (or at least I suspect what got me put in the group of banee's). I will henceforth avoid such behaviors so as to avoid banruler passing me off to tough guy big bro. That doesn't mean I'm going to say nothing or tip-toe on eggshells. That means I'm going to embrace the new regime and find just as many ways as possible to party in Moscow, jump on the beds in Milan, run on the grass fields in Kansas, race through the sand on dunebuggies in the Sahara, claim I've been to Hell and back (It gets HOT in the Caymans)_and just have as much FUN as possible, all while looking exceptionally stylish in my $5000 suits and making a huge profit running my LOLcat Criminal Empire in the wacky fun world we call the Jum Botcher Biards. And I reserve teh right to keep any typos I make while on a soapbox tangent and mangle words almost beyond recognition and expect at least two comments on just how badly I messed up Jim Butcher Boards. Just because we can't spill blood doesn't mean we can't have fun.
*steps off soapbox and leaps up wall to mouth of volcano, snags rope ladder and flies away in a helecopter to wherever I decide to stop in the world*
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I'll admit that every once in a while I slip, such as my comment in the World Cup thread (since changed). Rather than get slapped down for it, I was politely asked to revise it. I like how the changes are working.
Amber:
I like the structure of the boards now. The compartmentalized topics make it very easy to pick through the types of things that I like to read, and the types of things that I don't.
The modding has seemed kind of random to me for a long time, so I just avoid contributing anything substantive to the boards.
meh:
I feel that the current, revised moderation policy leaves large loopholes for thinly veiled personal jabs to slip through, and doesn't do much to address QSRI.
Furthermore, dubious posting gambits, including strawman arguments, including arguments from personal incredulity, including arguments from ignorance, including arguments of verbosity and red herrings, are still win buttons.
Therefore, while I understand the goal and while I respect the work being done by the mods, I feel that the current forum structure is still just as unstable in itself as the last version was.
Paynesgrey:
Simple fact is, we will never be able to police everything. There aren't enough of us to be the Debate Procedural Fact Police in every occassion. So we focus on the worst case behavior, and address issues as people bring them to us. Rudeness, disrespectful and offensive behaviour, etc.
Sometimes, a body just plain doesn't like how another body argues. Sometimes we just don't like the cut of their jib. "Alpha Fox 6, Do NOT engage! Repeat, do NOT engage!" If somebody's being rude, disrespectful, report them. But if someone just gets on your nerves because you feel their approach to a debate is improper, then don't try to win a pissing contest with a skunk. Now, if that skunk follows you all around the damn place and is clearly acting like Max Cady in Cape Fear, jumping on everything you say... then you could have an issue to bring us.
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