Focussed practitioners and minor talents

[rickayelm]

I have a few questions about the lesser magic users. First off you get two focus item slots or four enchanted item slots when you take channelling, but you create these item with thaumaturgy. So can you have some one else create items to fill these slots, or is there a special rule that allows a pure evoker still create focus objects for evocation even though they are created with thaumaturgy?

If it is possible to have item slots that power items that other people have created would it be appropriate to have a minor talent that gives you item slots for this purpose? For example a -1 refresh power taht gives two enchanted item slots(you aren't as efficiant as a true spellcaster) which would automatically upgrade into a full strength refinement if you gain a spellcasting power. Similar to the way the mana static power goes into the spellcasting ability.

And finally what do you think of having a ritualist gain the ability to use thaumaturgy at evocation spead, or theme of magic, instead of elemental magic if they gain channeling? For example a ward weaver gains access to defensive spells from all elements instead of full access to one element, or a diviner gains evocation speed divination(like that all encompassing awareness block in the book).

[Deadmanwalking]

1. All spellcasters are assumed to be able to craft items appropriate to their specialty, even pure Evocation users (though theirs would be limited to appropriate evocation effects and Focus Items for Evocation). A Pyromancer, for instance, can totally make a Blasting Rod or an Enchanted Item that sets things on fire...he just can't make Items to do anything non-fire related.

2. Personally, I'd allow such a character to take Refinement for extra Item Slots at no downside. it's hardly spectacularly unbalanced, after all.

3. Look into Sponsored Magic. Some specific variation of that is likely the best way to build the effect you refer to, and not any more expensive than what you're talking about.

[Viatos]

2. Personally, I'd allow such a character to take Refinement for extra Item Slots at no downside. it's hardly spectacularly unbalanced, after all.

This is specifically allowed. Nonwizard/sorcerers may take Refinement as many times as they wish for Focus Items or Enchanted Items.

[Deadmanwalking]

This is specifically allowed. Nonwizard/sorcerers may take Refinement as many times as they wish for Focus Items or Enchanted Items.

Right, but he's talking about someone without even Channeling or Ritual, just an item or two made by someone else. So allowing it is a House Rule...though not a very big one.