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Jared:
--- Quote from: Ms. Duck on June 24, 2010, 03:43:54 PM ---Second, why would the fae choose to put the table there, if they could have put it anywhere? The Equator for an epic battle would have made more sense. They put it over lake Chicago; over a source of dark magic 75,000 years old. That’s right, Demonreach isle has a source of dark magic beneath it over 75,000 years old; and the Isle itself was badly injured by something that happened at the start of the last ice age…
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The equator is always warm and the length of day doesn't really vary. The Great Lakes are a place where lots of warm air meets lots of cold air, produces wicked storms, and has significant length-of-day variation through the year.
Dale B:
--- Quote from: Ms. Duck on June 24, 2010, 06:13:40 PM ---Dear Dale:
so you propose that Laciel, caring about the to her irellevant future, used her influence to conrtol her shadow Lash, who then possessed Harry's body, fixed the LC, somehow fooled Bob, and then erseded the memmories from Lash, Harry, and Bob? Why would she not just outright force him to take up the coin? In fact, why is there a war beteween the knights and the coins at all, if the coins are that powerfull? Why would the coins even nead bearers?
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Nope. Try Lash, being aware of what is going on via her implanting in Dresden, notes the errors in set up (perfect memory, remember?). Whispers to her full self that the host they both want is in danger, and that a small amount of power directed here, there, and yes, over there, is just enough to fix it. No need to erase memories, as Lash was quite capable of doing things without Harry being aware of it, Lasciel is most likely a strong enough entity that she could manipulate energy in a fashion that Bob couldn't sense. And I mentioned rules of binding.....one of which is that a mortal has to take the coin by his or her free will.
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the table is the sacrifice table, and a specific item indeed, as per comments of Lea, Aurura, Mab, and JB hisself.
JB allso stated that the erlking definately, and he implied the queens as well, ascended by large scale rites of sacrifice.
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But we don't know when, or who were the stars of the sacrificial show. It could easily have been other, lesser fae in all cases that led to the Big Three we know and love....
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And I have no objection with mab being 650,000 years old..thats why I said 75,000 years at least.
and there were periods, in some case millions or billions of years, in which by our terms one or the other court would be supreme, if they even existed at all. I doubt there was a 'balanced' faerie court during the cretacous period, for example. Or the Huronian for a counter example.
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Except that there had to be. The ice -never- reached the tropics.....and the polar regions never became vacation spots for Floridians. Sure, I doubt that any 'court' existed as such until mortal man's imagination provided the concepts needed, but the forces of nature were there from the get go.
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so Mortal acsension + knowledge of the futrue+ pressence of the table + personal stake + explanations for some of the things that have happened + JB"s snarky comments + time travel will happen in the books sometime + ice age + near human extinction + demonreach + ...
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...divided by the sqare root of 2 = buffer overflow.
nthnclls:
--- Quote from: Dale B on June 24, 2010, 09:11:41 PM ---Nope. Try Lash, being aware of what is going on via her implanting in Dresden, notes the errors in set up (perfect memory, remember?). Whispers to her full self that the host they both want is in danger, and that a small amount of power directed here, there, and yes, over there, is just enough to fix it. No need to erase memories, as Lash was quite capable of doing things without Harry being aware of it, Lasciel is most likely a strong enough entity that she could manipulate energy in a fashion that Bob couldn't sense. And I mentioned rules of binding.....one of which is that a mortal has to take the coin by his or her free will.
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Lash was capable of creating ILLUSIONS without Harry realizing it, changing actual reality is completely different.
--- Quote ---But we don't know when, or who were the stars of the sacrificial show. It could easily have been other, lesser fae in all cases that led to the Big Three we know and love....
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iirc, we know that the Erkling was human at one point.
--- Quote ---Except that there had to be. The ice -never- reached the tropics.....and the polar regions never became vacation spots for Floridians. Sure, I doubt that any 'court' existed as such until mortal man's imagination provided the concepts needed, but the forces of nature were there from the get go.
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Both existing is not the same at all as both being equal.
cass:
--- Quote from: Dale B on June 24, 2010, 09:11:41 PM ---Except that there had to be. The ice -never- reached the tropics.....and the polar regions never became vacation spots for Floridians.
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I beg to differ. The poles have been nearly tropical (climatically) in the past, and there's quite a bit of research that suggests that the tropics have been, at the very least, quite cold (some say icebound, some say open water during the summer) at various points during the Earth's past. (Granted, it's been moderate for the last million years or so, but the Eocene was quite warm. Think crocodiles in the Arctic ocean.)
Landing:
--- Quote from: nthnclls on June 24, 2010, 11:33:22 PM ---
iirc, we know that the Erkling was human at one point.
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No we don't, the word of jim that talked about this only said he did a rite of ascension to get to where he is. It never said he was a human before. it might turn out that he was human but it isn't proven at this point yet.
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