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Maltese Falcon:

--- Quote from: MijRai on May 31, 2010, 11:47:38 PM ---They started off mortal like the Erlking started off mortal, if I remember correctly.

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Where do you remember that from exactly?

jbmdw45:

--- Quote from: neofyte on May 31, 2010, 11:36:02 PM ---I guess anything is possible, but thus far Jim has consistently used the formula of: ascension comes with commensurate amounts of power and constraint.  As a force of nature, I don' think Mab can lie.  As well the world dissemble for no other reason than atoms decided to stop attracting each other based on charge.  Human, endowed with free will, seem to be the only ones with the dubious privilege of reconstructing reality to fit their own subjective whim.

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The little sequence with the Erlking, and the fact that he considered the option of just ignoring "courtesy" and killing Harry, suggests that courtesy and keeping their word is something the Fae have power not to do. The raw fury Mab displays at Harry's suggestion that she might break her word likewise suggests that for her, keeping her word is a point of personal pride and self-love, not something she is merely forced to do as a Sidhe. This, BTW, is one of the reasons I can't take the Molly-as-Mab theory seriously. A rigid sense of personal honor is something you're pretty much born with or don't have at all, in my experience. It's not something Molly would acquire over time.

It is also one of the things I really like about Mab, so maybe I'm a bit biased. Mab is up there in my book with Talisman/Matthew Maule (Saberhagen's version of Dracula) in personal coolness, not to mention scariness. In Butcher terminology, she is gadara.

-Max

Landing:

--- Quote from: MijRai on May 31, 2010, 11:47:38 PM ---They started off mortal like the Erlking started off mortal, if I remember correctly.

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I can't remember anything from anywhere that states that the Erlking started off mortal, where did you hear that?

Salacia:
So if Mab is/was Molly, what about her statement that if Harry dies before he can take on the mantle of Winter Knight, Thomas was mortal enough to be Winter Knight in his stead?  I know Molly enjoyed (click to show/hide)her kiss with Thomas in Changes, but was it to the extent that if she can't have Harry, his brother would do instead? Very creative, interesting theory, but I think that Mab wanted Harry to be Winter Knight  because of his bloodline rather than that she was in love with him thousands of years ago when she was human.

MijRai:
It was a signing, and someone asked about the Darkhallow and the Erlking. Jim said Erl got to his rank from a mortal hunter to an equal of Mab with a rite of ascension, and at a later one he said close to the same thing about the Queens.

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