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Mimic Power Abuses
Moriden:
--- Quote ---This is utterly ridiculous, as has been argued many times, the cost of such evil is payed for as part of the powers.
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Im Farly certain that was primarily intended for Non-Humans who have those powers, especially since many of those powers were not intended to be had by pcs/ Humans, Its also been said that the powers and rules of this setting are guidelines not set in concrete. if someone is taking mimic power to simulate a magical ability to steal parts of someones soul then yes i think that counts as both Magic and a violation of the law.
KOFFEYKID:
Then that is your interpretation, which is in no way supported by the guidelines of the game, and is essentially an arbitrary decision you've made. There are lots of cultures where cannibalism isn't an evil thing (they eat the bodies of their dead relatives so that they can keep them with them always), or where cannibalism is seen as a right of the victor (to get their strength).
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Im done with this aspect of the thread, if other people want to argue the laws of magic please move to another thread for it.
surarrin:
As far as I'm aware only taking supernatural powers requires you to 1. touch their brain/heart 2. Take a bit out of their magical power.
or atleast, that's how I've read it.
Moriden:
--- Quote ---which is in no way supported by the guidelines of the game, and is essentially an arbitrary decision you've made.
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Magic dose not have to be an evocation. Any power could be magic , weather or not it counts as magic is entirely up to the storyteller. if you want to ignore that part of the rules that's up to you , but that doesn't mean its not there. however since you are the one that started this thread i will refrain from posting here again.
Walker_Blade:
First off I'm pretty sure that the Lawbreaker stunts and the laws of magic only apply to spells, if someone has supernatural strength and sticks a sword in someone they do not get lawbreaker. Not to mention thwe fact that lawbreaker stunts are gained because you completely believe in the action. But even assuming that you are right lets look at those laws
--- Quote from: Moriden on May 01, 2010, 03:50:49 PM --- if you do it to a human i at least would hit you with lawbreaker First [as appropriate] , Second [nearly always], Third [especially if taking skills] and Fifth [ if you use the power on corpses]
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1st: probably not as you most likely wouldn't kill them via this power, you might kill them before or after this power but I don't think that this power itself does any damage to them.
2nd: You really aren't transforming another person. That is meant to be warping their body and destroying thier mind, this power does neither.
3rd: The problem I see with this law is that you don't mess with their thoughts, but you do copy their skills, so this is really an ST call.
5th: It is demonstrated in the books that imprints can be read off of a dead body without breaking the laws, so I'd say if you eat a corpse to gain its' power that wouldn't grant a lawbreaker.
All that being said I strongly disagree with giving lawbreaker to anyone who did not cast spells.
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