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Laws of Magic and other supernaturals
PirateJack:
Mab has already proven that mind manipulation is possible in Turn Coat, so I don't see why she wouldn't be able to outright control a person if she wanted to. Of course her main reason for using human proxies is to take advantage of their free will so mind control is probably one of her least used magicks against humans, but that's a matter of nature rather than ability.
Deadmanwalking:
Mab having something does not necessarily imply that lesser creatures of Winter have the same. Still, you may have a point...though she did memory erasure not full on mind control, that might be thematically close enough to death and/or slumber to be available to Unseelie Magic.
Buscadera:
I would say no. The White Council only has reign over mortal/human practitioners of magic. I seem to recall Harry not liking when White Court vampires feed in front of him, but he doesn't try to destroy them. Their inducement of lust is mind control by most standards, but the Council has no grounds to stop them.
By the same token, changelings with magic are using Fae magic, not mortal magic. The wardens might step in if they were attacking humans, but that would only be to save mortals, not to enforce the laws.
Deadmanwalking:
Oh, absolutely. But we're mostly arguing gaining Lawbreaker stunts here, not the Wardens enforcing things. And there's a section on p. 241 that specifically deals with why the White Court don't get Lawbreaker. It's rationale (any such costs are accounted for in the cost of the Stunt) doesn't apply to Seelie or Unseelie Magic, since humans can clearly get those and break the Laws with them.
PirateJack:
--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 25, 2010, 02:23:35 PM ---Mab having something does not necessarily imply that lesser creatures of Winter have the same. Still, you may have a point...though she did memory erasure not full on mind control, that might be thematically close enough to death and/or slumber to be available to Unseelie Magic.
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Mind control is basically putting the victim's consciousness into a sort of slumber so that the Wizard/Fae/etc. takes over their body and mind.
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