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How to Summon and Bind an Demon

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Biff Dyskolos:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 26, 2010, 10:12:27 PM ---Why? Why should a bigger, stronger, but weaker willed demon be harder to bind than an imp of enormous will? According to the books, it's pure willpower, why change that?

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Sorry, I meant bit as a reply to you suggestion:


--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking ---Personally, I'd make that alot harder to find the higher the Demon's Refresh, since it's got more power and resources to suppress that sort of thing if it wants. And the -20 Refresh ones who want to be summoned and bound? Not a good idea to summon one of those.
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Adding the Refresh Cost to the Complexity would model the "harder to find" thing.

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: biff_dyskolos on April 26, 2010, 10:24:36 PM ---Sorry, I meant bit as a reply to you suggestion:

Adding the Refresh Cost to the Complexity would model the "harder to find" thing.

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Ah, understood.

Honestly, that feels unnecessary to me. The name's only one detail (and thus +2 Complexity) anyway. No, the point is that, to get a Greater Demon's name you need to go on an adventure, a quest of sorts, or make deals with shady people that you know will come back to haunt you. It's not about making the ritual harder, or making it take longer, it's about the consequences of your actions, and how some things require real risk, not just work.

iago:
Yeah, I think the best, strongest suggestion here is essentially that the more powerful the demon (in terms of refresh), the harder the GM should make the research necessary to uncover its True Name (and other info about the creature as well, I imagine).

JustinS:

--- Quote from: iago on April 27, 2010, 01:14:29 AM ---Yeah, I think the best, strongest suggestion here is essentially that the more powerful the demon (in terms of refresh), the harder the GM should make the research necessary to uncover its True Name (and other info about the creature as well, I imagine).

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I'm sure Chancey will be quite willing to trade names one for one. Yours for just about any demon you want...

You might also want to do enough research to make a good guess about its conviction, to make sure you can hold it. If you expected Erkel and got the ErlKing, you may have issues.

Korwin:

--- Quote from: iago on April 27, 2010, 01:14:29 AM ---Yeah, I think the best, strongest suggestion here is essentially that the more powerful the demon (in terms of refresh), the harder the GM should make the research necessary to uncover its True Name (and other info about the creature as well, I imagine).

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And its finally something to use the Arcane Library for.

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