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Stats for a taser?

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R00kie:

--- Quote from: void on April 23, 2010, 11:56:08 AM ---Personally, I'd call it weapon:0, MAAAAYBE weapon:1, but you can't take consequences beyond Mild. If you'd need to and cannot, you're taken out instead.

This might seem severe, but anyone packing a taser isn't intending to kill, and they've only got one shot ready for most models.

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Doesn't that make Tasers the ultimate weapon though? To get an guaranteed one-shot take-down on the average person with a Taser you'd need to do do 5 stress (enough so even after taking a mild (-2) consequence the damage fell off the end of their two point stress track). By contrasts with any other weapons you'd have to do 2 (stress track) +20 (mild, moderate, severe and extreme consequences combined) +1 = 23 stress damage to be sure of one shotting them. That's a pretty extreme difference.

void:
... how many average people -- not well built, buff, or having gone through conditioning -- do you know that don't drop to the ground in a heap when tazed?

Deadmanwalking:
And if someone's using a Taser, this implies (at least for NPCs) that they don't intend to kill. Allowing for the whole "captured PC has to escape" scene. While most NPCs go down after a Minor Consequence at most anyway.

Add to that the fact that Tasers mostly only get the one shot (5 Stress in one shot? Not that easy.), or only work in hand to hand, and I think they work out well enough.

R00kie:

--- Quote from: void on April 23, 2010, 12:55:13 PM ---... how many average people -- not well built, buff, or having gone through conditioning -- do you know that don't drop to the ground in a heap when tazed?
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Yes, but most of them drop into a heap when shot with a shotgun or assault rifle just as easily.

void:
There's a few other things at work here. First of all, a shotgun or assault rifle is going to be at least weapon:2, so if we're still assuming 5 shifts against an unarmored target with only a stress track of 2, they're going to be taking a 7 stress hit, needing a Moderate and Mild consequence in order to bring down to something that fits in their stress track. Most civilians are going to want a concession at this point; this gets you the same effects, but it's a VASTLY more brutal way to go about business.

Against someone actually wearing armor, or having supernatural defenses, a taser is going to have trouble getting through. Against an actual spellcaster, it might not even work in the first place.

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