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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2010, 02:26:16 PM »
Quote from: Deadmanwalking on April 22, 2010, 02:23:26 PM
If you have it already summoned and trapped in a circle? Sure it will. What else can it do?

Binding is how you trap it in a circle. (Isn't it? Maybe not.)

Hmmm... okay, yeah, I get the point, then. You probably could wear the thing down incrementally with multiple rituals. But each ritual takes more time. Someone going about it that way, I'd probably require more out of them in terms of materials, prep, time investment.
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2010, 05:07:50 PM »
I think that would Be still easier than the > 33 Ritual. And it would Be probable the summoned creature would give up, before getting an extreme consequence. Witch it would get automatically with the > 33 Ritual...
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2010, 06:11:45 PM »
After further consideration, the Wizard who uses multiple Small Binding Rituals will live saver than the One with the big hammer Ritual.

Extreme consequences will stay until an Major Milestone. How often does a Demon get an Major Milestone?
I think thats an angry Demon...
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2010, 06:53:38 PM »
Quote from: Korwin on April 22, 2010, 06:11:45 PM
After further consideration, the Wizard who uses multiple Small Binding Rituals will live saver than the One with the big hammer Ritual.

Extreme consequences will stay until an Major Milestone. How often does a Demon get an Major Milestone?
I think thats an angry Demon...


Yeah the binding ritual seems over the top for me.  It seems like the bind to answer questions truthfully, and the bind to serve the caster for all time are the same difficulty, but one the target is more likely to concede to than the other. 

I've got a related question, was there even a binding ritual when Harry summoned Toot in Storm Front?
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2010, 06:58:23 PM »
No, I think they got an working deal.
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2010, 07:03:46 PM »
Actually, yeah, that's a point: Summoning and containing in a circle to have a conversation is one thing. Harry made a point that when he summoned Toot, he *did not* bind him, when Morgan came out with the big pointy bit in his hand.  Chauncy's similar, even: he's certainly not bound into service, he's just showing up to have a conversation.  *Kalshazzak* on the other hand was a bound demon, compelled into service.
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2010, 09:19:12 AM »
I'm reading the Construct chapter at OW 29 at the moment.
Would it be handled like summoning and binding, or is there another method?

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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2010, 02:20:49 PM »
Quote from: Korwin on April 23, 2010, 09:19:12 AM
I'm reading the Construct chapter at OW 29 at the moment.
Would it be handled like summoning and binding, or is there another method?

The construct's animated by something. That something is typically a spirit or demon that is summoned and bound into the construct.
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2010, 05:47:40 PM »
So straight Summoning and Binding with different flavor?
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Re: Some Thaumaturgical Questions
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2010, 01:57:18 AM »
Quote from: iago on April 23, 2010, 02:20:49 PM
The construct's animated by something. That something is typically a spirit or demon that is summoned and bound into the construct.

if i want to have an AI inhabit the construct, how much would add this up to the complexity?
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