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KCR103:
I don't know if I missed something, but don't the new rules kill the usefulness of the Frequency (Crafting) specialization for Thaumaturgy?  Why use Refinement to get a +1 to Frequency (which gives an additional use to each enchanted item) when one could get a +1 to Strength (which could be used to boost overall power for each enchanted item or be used to give one additional use)?  Shouldn't the Frequency (Crafting) specialization give 2 uses/+1 similar to the use of enchanted item slots?

iago:

--- Quote from: KCR103 on April 14, 2010, 02:40:28 PM ---I don't know if I missed something, but don't the new rules kill the usefulness of the Frequency (Crafting) specialization for Thaumaturgy?  Why use Refinement to get a +1 to Frequency (which gives an additional use to each enchanted item) when one could get a +1 to Strength (which could be used to boost overall power for each enchanted item or be used to give one additional use)?  Shouldn't the Frequency (Crafting) specialization give 2 uses/+1 similar to the use of enchanted item slots?

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The way the rewrite goes, you don't add in the specialization bonuses until after you've made your "trades". So you can't trade that +1 Strength from your specialization (or focus item) in for frequency, you can only trade in the shifts of Strength you have in your base.

KCR103:

--- Quote from: iago on April 14, 2010, 02:51:27 PM ---The way the rewrite goes, you don't add in the specialization bonuses until after you've made your "trades". So you can't trade that +1 Strength from your specialization (or focus item) in for frequency, you can only trade in the shifts of Strength you have in your base.

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That makes sense, but I still don't know if I like the "devaluing" of the frequency specialization as it compares to the strength specialization that this implies (strength specialization raises Lore, while frequency specialization can reproduce only one effect of Lore (a sacrifice of one shift for additional uses)).

Korwin:

--- Quote from: KCR103 on April 14, 2010, 02:40:28 PM ---I don't know if I missed something, but don't the new rules kill the usefulness of the Frequency (Crafting) specialization for Thaumaturgy?  Why use Refinement to get a +1 to Frequency (which gives an additional use to each enchanted item) when one could get a +1 to Strength (which could be used to boost overall power for each enchanted item or be used to give one additional use)?  Shouldn't the Frequency (Crafting) specialization give 2 uses/+1 similar to the use of enchanted item slots?

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For an +2 into crafting strenght you need an +1 somewhere on the Thaumaturgical side.
For an +3 into crafting strenght you need an +2 and an +1 somewhere.

If you want an superb item crafter it makes sense to give it into item freqency...

Biff Dyskolos:

--- Quote from: KCR103 on April 14, 2010, 03:44:59 PM ---That makes sense, but I still don't know if I like the "devaluing" of the frequency specialization as it compares to the strength specialization that this implies (strength specialization raises Lore, while frequency specialization can reproduce only one effect of Lore (a sacrifice of one shift for additional uses)).

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Or it may increase the value of the Frequency specialization.

By using an additional item slots you get +2 uses per slot. If this assumes a base 1-use slot and your Frequency +1 specialization makes your slots base 2-uses then that must affect the calculation somehow. Using extra slots could give you either base*2 or base+1 extra uses.

All the examples so far seem to assume base 1-use slots so I assume that the details are still being worked out.

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