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Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: narphoenix on January 31, 2013, 03:24:33 PM ---One, I group them in the same group as Blampires and Rampires-no longer human, though they used to be.
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Their ability to freely enter homes uninvited seems to belie this. As do repeated references to them as human. Though I admit data's a bit skimpy.
--- Quote from: narphoenix on January 31, 2013, 03:24:33 PM ---Two, Harry would have to violate the 1st Law THREE times before it becomes -2.
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Valid point...but I'm still gonna say that he's got it by post-Cold Days (click to show/hide)see the Hound Kill in the Wild Hunt scene.
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on January 31, 2013, 04:53:55 PM ---I think it's more telling what isn't said--Harry, for instance, doesn't so much as bat an eye when he helps Molly incinerate one. You'd think if there was the suspicion that they still counted as human, Harry would've said something.
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Actually...he assumed they were the actual Fomor. He's not informed they were human minions till his post-fight talk with Molly. He's singularly un-upset by the notion when it comes up, though.
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It's arguable...but we're getting way too many edge cases, he doesn't seem overly worried about doing such things any more, and he's got the free Refresh, so it seems the right time to go with that -2. Hell, since ritual sacrifice counts it's debatable the thing with Lloyd Slate in Changes qualified. Or the thing with Susan (though her inhumanity probably counts that one out).
narphoenix:
The problem with increasing Lawbreaker is that Harry has also been working towards another Refinement. His time spent as a ghost and his physical therapy did WONDERS for his spell control, which indicates another Refinement in the works. Plus, when Harry Forzared the hound, it was a Hound of the Hunt. Not a human.
Sanctaphrax:
And that's pretty much why I don't like the mandatory purchase of the Lawbreaker Power.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on January 31, 2013, 06:37:41 PM ---It's arguable...but we're getting way too many edge cases, he doesn't seem overly worried about doing such things any more, and he's got the free Refresh, so it seems the right time to go with that -2. Hell, since ritual sacrifice counts it's debatable the thing with Lloyd Slate in Changes qualified. Or the thing with Susan (though her inhumanity probably counts that one out).
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Eh, I don't see Slate counting--it wasn't really part of a spell, leastwise not one that Harry was casting.
Theonlyspiral:
Susan was full Rampire when the ritual went down. She wouldn't count any more than any other Vampire. In terms of the hound...in play I would have a hard time giving him Lawbreaker for it.
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