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Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)

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Sanctaphrax:
I'm not saying they didn't care. But there's plenty of stuff in both YS and OW that isn't fully thought-out. So when something seems weird, the most plausible explanation is that it's an oversight.

PS: There's a Sponsored Ritual Power on the list. I think it'd be appropriate here.

Deadmanwalking:
@Mr. Death: I have nothing but respect and admiration for the folks at Evil Hat. They did a phenomenal job on the DFRPG. No, really, absolute phenomenal, and Fred knows Jim personally, so they even had some input from him officially and directly.

All that all said, if I'm not allowed to think I can stat out characters better than them...about 70% of this thread stops having a point. It's sorta the point of the thread, y'know? Statting out characters in what I believe is a more accurate fashion is basically this thread's mission statement.

And...I'm gonna guess you weren't around for the Early Bird PDFs and the editing that fans did at the time. I was, hell, I was one of the people doing it. The fact that the folks at Evil Hat are good people, amazingly skilled game designers, and pretty good at statting out characters in no way makes them infallible. I'll link you to the thread where this was done...and I suggest reading it if you think they don't make mistakes. As an example (particularly relevant to this discussion), prior to me pointing it out as an issue, Sigrun lacked the Drive skill.

But what we're discussing wasn't even a mistake per se. It was an assumption that wasn't disproved at the time, IMO, but has been somewhat more definitively since (ie: that she couldn't do Evocation). So changes are needed.

@Sanctaphrax: That's pretty much what's already there. I'm not seeing the point in a name change.

Sanctaphrax:
It's generally better to refer to a Power that actually exists. Sponsored Ritual (Runes) actually exists, and Sponsored Magic: Runes [-2] does not.

Unless you wrote it up somewhere without me noticing. I do miss things sometimes.

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on January 21, 2013, 08:57:22 PM ---All that all said, if I'm not allowed to think I can stat out characters better than them...about 70% of this thread stops having a point. It's sorta the point of the thread, y'know? Statting out characters in what I believe is a more accurate fashion is basically this thread's mission statement.

--- End quote ---
I was under the impression that this thread was about updating the characters more than changing them outright.

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on January 21, 2013, 09:40:41 PM ---I was under the impression that this thread was about updating the characters more than changing them outright.

--- End quote ---

To some degree, sure. Especially with Harry, Murphy, and Thomas. And that's why I went with only making it 70% useless if I'm somehow not allowed to do that. But really, I mean, look at the first six to ten posts, they include revisions on Marcone that I explicitly note are because I think they did him slightly wrong. Or look at the Denarian versions. We haven't seen any of them since Small Favor, so they obviously aren't updates. Ditto on Maeve when I statted her, or Carlos Ramirez (who's in the first ten posts) even now.

And I'm legitimately curious why you're not responding to the rest of that post.

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