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Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 22, 2012, 06:18:20 AM ---A higher Might skill would let Harry bench 400kg with Inhuman Strength, no question about it.
But you have him at Average Might, and I figured it'd be easier to increase the Power than the skill.
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He used to have Mediocre. I was going with it rising to Average and getting Inhuman managing that. Seemed workable. Especially if he can now use his High Concept on strength stuff (and couldn't before)...which sounds right.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 22, 2012, 06:18:20 AM ---As for Sith, I think he found it easy to take them away because he'd already half killed them with his claws.
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But he did it silently, which to me implies more raw strength than that, at least to me. They were alive and kept from speaking/carried away.
Sanctaphrax:
Harry's lifting Might is Great now. That's not superhuman. It's pretty strong, sure, but your average weightlifter can probably lift more.
Given that Harry is clearly supposed to be superhumanly good at lifting now, that seems inappropriate.
Not sure why silent snatch-grabs would require vast physical force.
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 23, 2012, 01:00:37 AM ---Harry's lifting Might is Great now. That's not superhuman. It's pretty strong, sure, but your average weightlifter can probably lift more.
Given that Harry is clearly supposed to be superhumanly good at lifting now, that seems inappropriate.
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The average weightlifter does not have Great Might, that's near peak human ability. Nor does he have the other advantages of Inhuman Strength. Harry cannot pick up a motorcycle (as he could with Supernatural Strength...it's Might +7 to do), nor smash through a metal door (doing that's only Might +6) without FP...nor can anyone with his stated lifting capacity. Any less Might than that level and he's in the 'human range' technically. At +4 he can casually carry a heavyset adult easily, throw heavy chairs a zone, and use full backpacks as thrown weapons. That's plenty for what he's got. The top theoretical level of unaugmented human strength in the DFRPG is just...really unreasonably high. I mean, someone with Superb Might and Mighty Thews can lift motorcycles, throw sofas a zone without rolling, and use human beings as thrown weapons.
Realism-wise, you should just cap Pure Mortals at Good or Great strength and no enhancements on lifting capacityor something like that.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 23, 2012, 01:00:37 AM ---Not sure why silent snatch-grabs would require vast physical force.
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You tend to need to overpower someone completely to keep them completely quiet without rendering them unconscious (which they weren't given their later screaming).
Sanctaphrax:
Actually, 400 kilos is more than the weight of the vast majority of motorcycles.
And Harry can do sets with 400 kilos. He could lift a motorcycle over and over again.
There are real people who've benched that much, incidentally. But not in sets. And not without equipment.
Given the weightlifting is a specialization of Might narrow enough for a Stunt, I'd expect most serious mortal weightlifters to have Fair-ish Might and a stunt. Given how specialized athletes are, they probably get much of their ability from stunts. Like college professors.
Also you vastly underestimate how strong people can get.
PS: I don't think keeping someone quiet is a matter of force. Force matters a little, but it's be mostly about technique. I think.
Deadmanwalking:
Huh. For the record, I was thinking they were heavier than that, not underestimating human strength. Okay, I'll arrange...something.
EDIT: And raised his Might to Good. That's a total of +6...that combined with his ability to use Aspects on it should be sufficient.
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