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Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)

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Deadmanwalking:
Alright, I'm convinced. He's a Doctor. I've given the other Senior council Members a Mortal stunt or two to round them out as well. Most seem fairly self-explanatory.

Ancient Mai and Martha Liberty aren't quite done yet, but will be shortly.

EDIT: And they're up.

waddesdonbaz:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on December 15, 2012, 06:34:54 PM ---Oh, good.  :)

Murphy uses her Fantastic Fists for every weapon we've actually seen her use due to her Armed Arts stunt. Check it out if you like.


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Far be it for me to question someone clearly vastly better with the character creation system than I wil ever be, but I could buy that if it was just her being good using weapons, with aptitude transfering from unarmed combat muscle reflex and experience, but she was teaching them, which requires more technical expertise. Just my opinion of course.


--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on December 15, 2012, 06:34:54 PM ---
As for that, 17 seems a little over the top (though only a little). I built Morgan with only 16 (assuming he's down to Refresh 1) and 52 skill points. I'm inclined to think I undersold him a bit, looking at him (I may go back and tack on one more level of Refinement, now that I think about it...ditto Luccio) and he may have a Refresh of more than 1...but still, at 17, you're looking at a legitimate peer...so that's around right, especially if he has a few less skills.
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46 in skills, so less than your interpretation of Morgan for sure. Thanks for the feedback.

vultur:
On Morgan: TC says Eb is one of the only wizards expected to be able to take him down, so I'd figure he's much stronger, not that far short of the Senior Council (25+ Refresh maybe).

EDIT: Per OW, Harry is also a 14 base Refresh character by DB, and I think there's a pretty big gap between him and Morgan.

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: waddesdonbaz on December 16, 2012, 08:22:21 PM ---Far be it for me to question someone clearly vastly better with the character creation system than I wil ever be, but I could buy that if it was just her being good using weapons, with aptitude transfering from unarmed combat muscle reflex and experience, but she was teaching them, which requires more technical expertise. Just my opinion of course.
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Here's the thing, her weapon skills are explicitly part of her aikido training...which is what Armed Arts does, it allows you to use Fists because the weaponry training is part and parcel of your unarmed combat training, all of said training melding into one particular style of combat. No reason you couldn't teach with it.


--- Quote from: waddesdonbaz on December 16, 2012, 08:22:21 PM ---46 in skills, so less than your interpretation of Morgan for sure. Thanks for the feedback.
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Cool, then. And you're very welcome.  :)


--- Quote from: vultur on December 16, 2012, 08:27:25 PM ---On Morgan: TC says Eb is one of the only wizards expected to be able to take him down, so I'd figure he's much stronger, not that far short of the Senior Council (25+ Refresh maybe).
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Well, Luccio is better (or was prior to her body-swap, which is what her stats as written represent)...and I interpret that as primarily Evocation prowess. Where he's actually not too far down from the Senior Council all things considered. 9 shifts vs. their 11-12. That's...really pretty close. And he never demonstrates the sheer scale of power they have (Listens-to-wind's duel with the skinwalker, or the Merlin putting up a Ward to stop an army, or Ebenezar smashing a compound full of Red Court with a satellite). All we hear about Morgan is that he's a scary customer in a straight fight (and fairly clever). No mention of the kind of raw power the Council wields.

Still, I suppose I could up both of them one shift in Evocation with Focus Items relatively cheaply (2 Refresh each)...but neither of them seem to use overt focus Items that much. Maybe I'll re-read the fight scene in Dead Beat and think about it. But that'd definitely be the only change I made.

Jebm:
Can you do a write up of Cold Days level Toot-Toot , as the little guy clearly shows he's terrifying once he's taking on something in his own weight-class.

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