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Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 12, 2012, 10:03:03 PM ---But if you want to make the Declarations with a skill, you need a stunt or Power adding that trapping to the skill.
And we do want to make the Declarations with a skill (probably Conviction) because it's narratively appropriate for willpower to dictate how well the ghost mojo works and because most ghosts (including Harry) won't have the FP to do many Declarations without a skill.
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He was a 20+ Refresh character with maybe 3-6 points worth of powers/stunts who got Compelled every time he couldn't interact with something physically (or, if you think he kept his powers and just lost access, then he also got a Compel every time he would've used magic but couldn't). Either way his Fate point total in Ghost Story was legendary.
Still, I do agree that he was making Conviction declarations in there, but it seemed more like a world rule than a power per se: Anyone who's acting as a ghost gets to make Conviction declarations. Much like having an adventure where the PCs are sucked into a dream and can manipulate things with Discipline rolls, this strikes me as a 'nature of the premise/world' temporary ability, not a power per se. The fact that's it is only Harry there makes the distinction weird...but I think anyone else in the same state would get the same ability, whether they were truly the same nature of being or not. So, more general rule of the weird state he was in than power.
Deadmanwalking:
And I've added an index, for ease of use. Revisions of Fix, Lloyd Slate, and Ronald Reuel to follow (based on new knowledge of the Winter and Summer Knights).
EDIT: And all modified (slightly). all may come in for additional modification as I think about them, this is just the 'for sure' stuff.
Sanctaphrax:
But that's what Powers are for. Representing the abilities that you get from the type of being you are. All Vampires are inhumanly strong, so they all have Strength Powers. All ghost-like-things can make willpower-based Declarations, so they all have a Power or Stunt that lets them do that.
I'm pretty sure Harry was still capable of casting spells in GS, it's just that his incorporeal nature made his spells pretty useless.
Deadmanwalking:
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 13, 2012, 04:14:17 AM ---But that's what Powers are for. Representing the abilities that you get from the type of being you are. All Vampires are inhumanly strong, so they all have Strength Powers. All ghost-like-things can make willpower-based Declarations, so they all have a Power or Stunt that lets them do that.
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Okay, so your players' characters all get sucked into a very malleable dream realm. It's a function of that realm that anyone who's can use Discipline to make changes to it, making declarations. Would you charge all of them a power for this? I wouldn't, since everyone can do it in that realm. It's a function of the realm and not the character.
That's what I got the impression was going on there. Anyone and everyone in the realm/metaphysical state Harry was in could do that with Conviction, regardless of creature type or anything else. It was a changed world-rule, not a specific power of a kind of creature.
Now this can certainly be argued the other way...but that's my interpretation of what was occurring.
--- Quote from: Sanctaphrax on December 13, 2012, 04:14:17 AM ---I'm pretty sure Harry was still capable of casting spells in GS, it's just that his incorporeal nature made his spells pretty useless.
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He had some serious issues with it early on. And even later, he was using an entirely different methodology to cast the memories of spells...which might just be that Declaring thing. Or might be him keeping his magic. Hard to tell. He certainly didn't have the Winter Knight stuff and was getting compels like nobody's business.
DFJunkie:
Harry's trouble, at least in CD, is more like "the predator within" than "the temptation of power." He's already given into that temptation, now he has to deal with the fallout.
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