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Harry's Stats plus Assorted Other Stat Revisions (Small Favor through Cold Days)

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vultur:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on July 21, 2010, 08:17:23 AM ---Well, Harry can do almost that good, and still needs to resort to guns now and again. And, even sans his Evocation Specialties, assuming well designed Foci Grevane's only gonna drop from a 9 to an 8 shift Evocater...so, while I might do that, you're still not gonna be happy with him. I'd assume that a lot of his non-Evocation has to do with keeping his Zombies up and going, not any weakness in the area.

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I wouldn't give him any Evocation Foci, either. I just don't see the evidence that he uses it enough to want them.

(And I'd only give him -1 on Lawbreaker (First), too, as while he kills a lot of people I imagine he'd mostly do it by ordering his minions to kill them, not with his own magic.)

Deadmanwalking:

--- Quote from: vultur on July 22, 2010, 06:56:41 AM ---I wouldn't give him any Evocation Foci, either. I just don't see the evidence that he uses it enough to want them.
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Thaumaturgy foci are fairly pointless, and he clearly lacks useful Enchanted Items...so my options for what to give him are a bit limited.


--- Quote from: vultur on July 22, 2010, 06:56:41 AM ---(And I'd only give him -1 on Lawbreaker (First), too, as while he kills a lot of people I imagine he'd mostly do it by ordering his minions to kill them, not with his own magic.)

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Ordering summoned creatures (which is technically what zombies are) to kill breaks the First Law. This is stated rather explicitly in Storm Front, when discussing Victor Sells use of a a demon assassin, if I remember correctly.


How I'd probably actually handle it in play is to have all his offensive Evocations channeled through a zombie, as he supercharges one of his minions and has it attack. No mechanical difference of course, just very thematic.

Tsunami:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on July 22, 2010, 10:10:59 AM ---
Ordering summoned creatures (which is technically what zombies are) to kill breaks the First Law. This is stated rather explicitly in Storm Front, when discussing Victor Sells use of a a demon assassin, if I remember correctly.

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Then how does Binder avoid being chopped to bits by the Wardens ??
And Vic really had no need to break the Laws by proxy... he did pretty well on his own. Also, summoning the demon and binding it was probably enough to get him on the to-chop-list (hey, i kinda like this word *g*).

ballplayer72:

--- Quote from: Deadmanwalking on July 22, 2010, 10:10:59 AM ---Thaumaturgy foci are fairly pointless, and he clearly lacks useful Enchanted Items...so my options for what to give him are a bit limited.

Ordering summoned creatures (which is technically what zombies are) to kill breaks the First Law. This is stated rather explicitly in Storm Front, when discussing Victor Sells use of a a demon assassin, if I remember correctly.

How I'd probably actually handle it in play is to have all his offensive Evocations channeled through a zombie, as he supercharges one of his minions and has it attack. No mechanical difference of course, just very thematic.

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Then why isn't Binder a warlock?  he obviously kills folks with his minions.

Archmage_Cowl:

--- Quote from: ballplayer72 on July 22, 2010, 02:38:13 PM ---Then why isn't Binder a warlock?  he obviously kills folks with his minions.

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harry comments he knows the laws enough to skirt them without actually breaking any, hence the reason the wardens havent killed him.

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