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Moriden:

--- Quote ---I'm not sure that's necessary. You need to use magic to break a Law, and we have no evidence at all of the Gatekeeper using magic to seek knowledge of beyond the Outer Gates. Mundane research? Sure, I'm sure he does that lots. Reaching there with his Magic? That strikes me as both stupid and suicidal, two things Rashid most definitely is not. And doing mundane research no more breaks the Seventh Law than shooting someone breaks the First.
--- End quote ---

its actually stated a few times that merely researching about the outer gates is a violation though that could be harry / bob overstating things. but most importantly it clearly states that the gatekeeper maintains the wards on the outer gates, that would be pretty hard to do without , knowing how wards that would be effective against beings that seem to be highly resistant to mortal magic would work, and using said magic. thus kinda by definition to be the "gatekeeper" the one who guards the outer gates he must have sought knowledge about the outsiders. just because its his job and he doesn't face social sanction for it doesn't mean he is immune to the metaphysical consequences, and he doesn't have a black-staff plot device to protect him like Ebenezer dose.

Moriden:
heres some reevent quotes from "your story"


--- Quote ---Characters can also stumble across the
Seventh Law, thanks to the particulars of its
wording: namely, the prohibition against even
researching the Outside. A GM looking to put a
particularly nasty choice in front of her players
could easily “hide” a piece of knowledge within a
forbidden tome of Outsider lore. And if a life is
on the line, isn’t it worth the risk? (The Outsiders
of your game would certainly hope so.)
--- End quote ---

and


--- Quote ---Furthermore, the
Outside’s intentions are so dark, so dire, that the
Seventh Law is the only one on the books that
isn’t conditioned upon casting a spell. Even doing
research on the Outside and its inhabitants is
verboten, let alone actually pulling power from
there
--- End quote ---


So you clearly dont have to cast a spell to break this law.

iago:
The 7th law is one that's open to a lot of interpretation on a game by game basis.  And some of what you're quoting about is more about its enforcement (by Wardens) than it is about whether or not that actually means you gotta take the Lawbreaker ability. :)

At *my* table, I'd probably condition the ability on actual spellcraft, but sic the Wardens on your ass if you weren't discreet about your research.

Moriden:

--- Quote ---The 7th law is one that's open to a lot of interpretation on a game by game basis.  And some of what you're quoting about is more about its enforcement (by Wardens) than it is about whether or not that actually means you gotta take the Lawbreaker ability. Smiley

At *my* table, I'd probably condition the ability on actual spell craft, but sic the Wardens on your ass if you weren't discreet about your research.
--- End quote ---

so in your interpretation you only get this stunt if you do research and draw power from beyond the outer gates. meaning that just the research while suspicious isn't a crime, and using magic to attack, divine, or in any other way that's not "drawing power" isn't?

iago:
My interpretation is that the research IS a crime (bringing the Wardens after you with the long knives out), but it doesn't taint your soul (i.e., require the stunt) until you cast a spell using it.

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