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R00kie:
YSp80 Red Court Infected Musts
"For the Recovery and Toughness abilities, the Catch (page 185)
is valued at +1 or +2 depending on whether –2 or –4 of refresh is spent
on those abilities."
Which seems to be in direct contradiction to the stacking rules for the Catch. If they have taken both Inhuman Toughness and Inhuman Recovery, then they both get +1 from the Catch but as stated on Page 185 "You may
specify more than one Catch if you so choose, but you can only receive the discount once; take the best one." so you would only get +1 for the Catch
Alternatively this might make sense if either Supernatural Recovery or Supernatural Toughness was offered as part of the Template, but they are not.
This issue is then repeated on OW p86 where the Red Copurt Vampire appears to get +2 for the Catch despite the fact that at most it gets -2 for any of its Toughness powers and Catches cannot reduce the cost of your Toughness powers below –1.
There is the alternative interpretation where by you cannot stack on the same power, but you gain benefit from the catch on each of your abilities. Unfortunately this runs contrary to the description of the stacked catch ability on page 187.
As for the Catch for Hammerhands (OWp42) - thats clearly wrong.
Once I have some confirmation that my understanding of how the catch works is correct I'll check all the other values in the books. Its definitely not consistently applied anyway.
Deadmanwalking:
You misunderstand how The Catch works: It is taken only once*, and applies to all powers in the Toughness category (which includes Recovery powers, remember), and it cannot reduce the total cost of those powers below -1. So the Red Court, who have Inhuman Toughness and Inhuman Recovery can easily have a +2 Catch, ditto Hammerhands and his +3 (since he, and they, have 4 points of Toughness powers**), or the Infected who have 4 points of such abilities. The way it works is handled with perfect consistency.
*Well, barring Physical Immunity and the Stacked Catch, which have their own rules.
**Again, ignoring Physical Immunity and the Stacked Catch in Hammerhands case.
iago:
--- Quote from: TheeGravedigger on April 13, 2010, 09:52:14 AM ---OW109. The text regarding Bob's location during Harry's time at Hog's Hollow, it spans the page awkwardly, with Bob's Text crossing from the bottom of the left column to a higher line near the bottom of the right column, with Harry's Text sitting in the middle at a funny angle. It is a bit awkward to read the way it's placed.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, that area had gotten mucked up for some reason. My editor caught it and compelled me to fix it... thanks for the second set of eyes on the problem, tho!
iago:
Deadmanwalking has the working of the Catch down right.
Ard3:
In Elaines stats in p. 182 OW her ring gives bonuses to defensive power and control, but is used with offensive rote. If I am reading right, it actually uses wands stats but says ring.
It does say that she other items too, so it could be one of those instead. But it still feels weird to link non-statted focus to rote.
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