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Aine:

--- Quote from: Saedar on March 25, 2010, 06:25:03 PM ---Yeah.... But is Mab really evil? More like unrepentantly cruel!  ;)

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More like spiteful for the fun of it than cruel, really.  I mean, who hasn't seem some little kid sitting outside an anthill smushing ants?  Is that "evil"?  If I were Mab, I'd probably consider humans pretty much the same way...

(Insert long debate about soulessness, free will, and morality with no real conclusion *here*)

Mickey Finn:
"Goosed by evil"

*CACKLE* Love.

TheMouse:
One problem with trying to avoid all those stereotypes is that they are examples of people with flaws. Part of the genre is that people are flawed. It's what makes people like Michael stand out so much: They manage to be good in a world of moral gray areas.

I'm really not shocked that people are making flawed characters. "Bad guy, but not," is an obvious example in a word where demons and vampires stalk the night. Lawbreakers are also obvious, because the Laws are some of the closest things we get to spelled out objective morality. Lone wolves are people with personal problems (and thus flawed) or people with a secret (and thus interesting, at least in theory).

So while I do agree that people should not restrict themselves to those categories, originality for the sake of originality is not necessarily meritorious.

Now that I've argued against your idea, I'm going to post a character that hasn't broken any Laws, isn't a good badguy, and isn't a loner.

The character (whose name I haven't thought up yet) is an untrained wizard. When he was younger, he basically ran away to join the circus. He ended up being taken in by some changelings performers, who did their best to teach him how to use his powers and to keep him safe. Obviously, their views on magic have influenced his. Now he lives in (wherever the game ends up being set) living as a street performer. His conflict is trying to figure balance his history and perspective when entering into the world on his own, especially his entry into wizardly society (which the changelings kept him hidden from, thinking they were doing him a favour).

So, not a loner, not a Lawbreaker, and not sort of evil. Just kind of confused.

srl51676:

--- Quote from: iago on March 25, 2010, 06:00:08 PM ---As to "I'm evil but not really" side of things: I think the other posters have got it right. There are very few examples of unalloyed goodness in the Dresdenverse. So that's not an escapable paradigm.  We can't all be Michael -- nor should we.  If Michael Carpenters were frequent, they wouldn't stand out as such an important, vital part of the mortal struggle against the supernatural.

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I'm not say we should all be Michael, far from it this is a noir world and there should be lots of gray area PC's I was just commenting on the almost total lack of any strongly good characters on this board. where are the repentant lawbreakers like Molly, the Father Forthhill's, the good wardens like Ramirez, or the wizards who do good while respecting the importance of the laws instead of finding ways to get away with breaking them.

Your example sounds like a good fit very noir but still a team player.

"Drizzt and Angel are two VERY different characters."
Again I am not talking about backstory here what I am talking about is the psycology of the player the reason we are attracted to the dark hero with the tortured past who has all the powers of an evil being with out that pesky evil alignment. To me they seem like a dodge if they were rarely played they would be interesting, even refreshing, but they make up an absurd percentage of RPG PC's.

"One problem with trying to avoid all those stereotypes is that they are examples of people with flaws."
 I know this. they are examples of people 3 or 4 specific flaws. What I am saying is that I wish people would pick different flaws. I also think it speaks to our psychology as a group that you are only the 3rd person to post on this thread an example of what I was looking for and the rest are defending the need to play Thomas and Kincaid.

That said I love your idea way to go!
I love

Shecky:
It's easy to lump a broad spectrum of characters under big labels, mainly because human perception is geared towards seeing patterns and resemblances. But that is utterly irrelevant if we remember that each character, no matter what they have in common with lots of other characters, is a unique individual.

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