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Spokane Game.
srl51676:
This should explain a lot of what goes on in spokane.
http://chawedrosin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/spokanes-gypsy-curse/
kytanos:
--- Quote from: srl51676 on March 09, 2010, 12:11:46 AM ---This should explain a lot of what goes on in spokane.
http://chawedrosin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/spokanes-gypsy-curse/
--- End quote ---
Nothing, and I mean nothing can explain this city. :-)
((Since their are four of us, we should start talking scheduling, anyone up to gm? etc)) 3+1 gm is a good gaming group.
I know dresden isnt out yet, but we can hold out with something fun to pass the time. Plus if you really want we can do dresden with a different system. It's the campaign that matters in the end. not which set of dice you toss or how is grappling handled.
srl51676:
I was just thinking about setting up Spokane and realized that this city is the only provider of medical care for much of the inland NW as such I think one or all of the local hospitals should be accorded neutral ground. All were founded by the church as well and thus one or all might be holy ground to some extent. What do you guys think?
kytanos:
I think you got the wrong idea.
To me, with how often it's been seen in the book, and the behaviors of supernatural entities inside of it (gruff not killing harry when he was in the pub for example) It's not something you stumble across at every second block. A place has to be Special with a capital S to become accorded neutral ground. (the very fact mac's is accorded neutral ground. and harry's comments about it speak volumes. Mac did something big or pulled serious political strings to get it)
Just because their the only care providers doesn't mean they have to be neutral ground, As seen in the dresden files society usually ticks along quite fine. There is no reason the hospitals have to have any special protection.
Additionally, what your talking about is not something to take lightly. You throw it around and you cheapen it. You use a trope to much and it becomes a clique and loses it's value and impact. To have all the hospitals be accorded holy church ground. Sounds ridiculous.
Be more subtle and precise when designing a city. Instead of having all the things lumped in one place, seperate them. and put them in a place where it both makes sense, and the element can shine. Also give it some flavor, make it special and unique, make it fit the location and city.
Holy ground? Why does it have to be the white god's holy ground? Spokane was named after an Indian tribe right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spokane_Falls_1888.jpg Why not have Spokane falls be Indian holy ground.
Want some neutral ground? Didnt spokane used to have major rail business a hundread years back? Have one of those old rail hubs be neutral ground. Made even more interesting by the fact that business is long gone, and the train station is now probably used for something else. Want to meet safety with the vampire? Okay, he will be in the gift shop. :-)
srl51676:
I'm not sure there is a ton of evidence for mac's being "Special" other than it is designed in such a way as to cater to and protect it self from its chosen clientele. He is an interesting character but I think people read way too much into him. (but on this we shall see)
"Mac did something big or pulled serious political strings to get it" I would think this is because the location itself is small and insignificant to the big picture. Neutral ground is more likely reserved for maintaining a low profile from the mortal community or protecting places of power important to more than one faction. a mortal example would be The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem which is a holy site to Jews, Christians, Muslims and is controlled by none of them in order to maintain peace.
"It's not something you stumble across at every second block." Well I'm not sure that is true either. In the Las Vegas game run in Beta the entire Las Vegas Strip was Neutral ground. The idea both there and with the hospital is different than Mac's. They are not a haven. They are protected because any supernatural disruption would cause wide spread harm and bring the attention of the Mortal Authorities.
"Holy ground? Why does it have to be the white god's holy ground?" I was thinking that it might be because Sacred Heart for example was founded and is still run by an order of nuns called the Sisters of Providence and has been on the site for exactly 100 years this year. True Faith I think would tend to rub off on a place so long established and home to so many prayers for the sick and dying. After some research I would limit the neutrality to Sacred Heart only as it is the only one that has both the history and the maintained connection to "The Church"
"Why not have Spokane falls be Indian holy ground." No reason it might not be there are a number of important sites for Native American religion in the area. As far as I can tell all Holy Ground does in the Dresdenverse I give a home field advantage to those that keep it holy and a disadvantage to their enemies. Kind of like a public version of a Threshold created by a family. The mutual reverence and affection for a location give it power. The Native American sites might have waned over time due to the near extermination of their people and the great degree to which they have assimilated. However these places were kept holy for thousands of years before Europeans came in the relatively recent past (1836). "The first humans to live in the Spokane area arrived between twelve to eight thousand years ago" Wikipedia. The falls would also poses other qualities as a place of great natural elemental force with an affinity for water and possibly earth and or a strong connection to the Nevernever.
Useful Links
Spokane Tribe History
http://www.wellpinit.wednet.edu/sal-cos/cos_toc.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spokane_%28tribe%29
Spokane History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spokane,_Washington#History
Sacred Hear Hospital
http://www.shmc.org/index.php/page/286
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