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BookLover♥:
Based on chadu's post, I'm a bit confused...


--- Quote from: mslinsenmayer on May 21, 2007, 06:54:11 PM ---... you might want to adjust Carlos BD a little bit back; In DB Carlos mentions ( while on Sue I think) that he was an apprentice at Harry's trail for Justin's murder. According to the timeline as is, that would make him about 8-10 years old at that point?  ...
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--- Quote from: Priscellie on May 22, 2007, 05:02:57 AM ---I asked Jim about it, and he said Carlos was referring to Harry's trial in "Summer Knight."  Check out his post here.

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--- Quote from: chadu on June 21, 2007, 04:17:58 AM ---DB, p. 290 = Carlos in brown robe, during a Council meeting (probably SK).

DB, p. 404 = "A lot of them, like me, were apprentices when you were first tried after Justin DuMorne's death."
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The quote from DB p404 doesn't synch with Jim's response...

To me it looks like we're actually talking about two different things - one is where Harry remembers seeing Carlos, which is the Council meeting in SK (young apprentice hiding his grin).

The other is Carlos' knowledge of Harry (DB p 404) - he says he was an apprentice at the time of Harry's trial RE DuMorne, not that he was at the trial.  I haven't seen anything that says someone couldn't be an apprentice at age 8-10...  didn't Justin come get Harry when he was 10?  I would think that you can become an apprentice at whatever age your magic begins to manifest, as long as someone takes you in.

Maybe this is a moot point, since it's been a while since the last post.  I was just trying to work through the references and Jim's response.  Sometimes it helps if I spell it out.  (Bad pun not intended)

seiscat:

--- Quote from: BookLover on July 02, 2007, 05:37:24 PM ---Based on chadu's post, I'm a bit confused...

The quote from DB p404 doesn't synch with Jim's response...

To me it looks like we're actually talking about two different things - one is where Harry remembers seeing Carlos, which is the Council meeting in SK (young apprentice hiding his grin).

The other is Carlos' knowledge of Harry (DB p 404) - he says he was an apprentice at the time of Harry's trial RE DuMorne, not that he was at the trial.  I haven't seen anything that says someone couldn't be an apprentice at age 8-10...  didn't Justin come get Harry when he was 10?  I would think that you can become an apprentice at whatever age your magic begins to manifest, as long as someone takes you in.

Maybe this is a moot point, since it's been a while since the last post.  I was just trying to work through the references and Jim's response.  Sometimes it helps if I spell it out.  (Bad pun not intended)

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I agree with you that Jim's comment and the quote from Carlos seem a little at odds.  To me, the wording in Carlos' quote sounds like he was referring to the trial when Harry was 16.  I think we have to assume it was just a slip in word craft. 

On the other hand, yes, I think apprentices would start when their talent emerged for safety sake considering that the lack appears to produce warlocks on a regular basis. Harry and Elaine seemed to have blossomed around 10, somewhat later for Molly.

chadu:

--- Quote from: BookLover on July 02, 2007, 05:37:24 PM ---Based on chadu's post, I'm a bit confused...

The quote from DB p404 doesn't synch with Jim's response...

To me it looks like we're actually talking about two different things - one is where Harry remembers seeing Carlos, which is the Council meeting in SK (young apprentice hiding his grin).

The other is Carlos' knowledge of Harry (DB p 404) - he says he was an apprentice at the time of Harry's trial RE DuMorne, not that he was at the trial.  I haven't seen anything that says someone couldn't be an apprentice at age 8-10...  didn't Justin come get Harry when he was 10?  I would think that you can become an apprentice at whatever age your magic begins to manifest, as long as someone takes you in.
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It looks to me like we're talking about two separate things, too.

And Carlos is likely to be the sort of wizard that could've been apprenticed at age 8, given his skill level vs. youth...


CU

Priscellie:

--- Quote from: seiscat on July 02, 2007, 06:07:04 PM ---I agree with you that Jim's comment and the quote from Carlos seem a little at odds.  To me, the wording in Carlos' quote sounds like he was referring to the trial when Harry was 16.  I think we have to assume it was just a slip in word craft. 

On the other hand, yes, I think apprentices would start when their talent emerged for safety sake considering that the lack appears to produce warlocks on a regular basis. Harry and Elaine seemed to have blossomed around 10, somewhat later for Molly.

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As much as we like to believe they are, writers are not infallible.  Jim spells out very clearly what he meant Carlos to say here:


--- Quote ---Actually, he was talking about Harry's confrontation with the White Council in "Summer Knight." :)  If you read the scene with the Senior Council again, there's a mention of a young apprentice in a brown robe hiding a grin behind one hand.

IE, Ramirez. :)

Jim
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There's really nothing more to it, alas.  Let's just say that Carlos misspoke in the excitement of getting to ride a dinosaur! :D

seiscat:
Works for me!

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