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tud:
Regarding 17 being legal...Not in almost all the US except with permission of the parent..you really think that Mama Murphy would allow her eldest daughter to date someone 13 years older than her ..at 17 (Not 18..she was 17 at the time)

As for the Lieutenant issue..My problem isn't with the idea of her being shunted to SI because she stepped on some toes..But you don't just get promoted to the upper ranks..you have to have the requisite time in grade and then sit for an exam..and for the upper ranks you have to have a degree..There isn't a large police department in the country that doesn't require that...

tud

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: tud on March 22, 2007, 09:24:12 AM ---Regarding 17 being legal...Not in almost all the US except with permission of the parent..you really think that Mama Murphy would allow her eldest daughter to date someone 13 years older than her ..at 17 (Not 18..she was 17 at the time)

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Define "date".

Hang out, get to know each other, become fond of each other, not do anything illegal... I can see it if the guy was a genuinely good person and Mrs. Murphy knew him and liked and trusted him. And he does seem to have been a good guy from what Murphy says about him in SK.

Kalshane:
Age of consent in Illinois (and thus Chicago) is 17. Not to say a 30 year old dating/marrying a 17 year old isn't creepy.

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: Kalshane on March 25, 2007, 04:54:35 PM ---Age of consent in Illinois (and thus Chicago) is 17. Not to say a 30 year old dating/marrying a 17 year old isn't creepy.

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Besides, I'm not sure how recent immigrants the Murphy family are; and if Ma Murphy grew up in Ireland, she'd be used to 16 being age of consent.

Priscellie:
For those curious, here's the logic that went into the calculation:

In "Blood Rites," we learn that Murphy's youngest sister, Lisa, is a month short of 21.  This book takes place in the late Autumn of 4 ASF.
We know Collin Murphy committed suicide when Karrin was 11, so Karrin can be a maximum of 12 years older than Lisa (in the case that he died before Lisa was born, but after she was conceived).
Therefore, in 4 ASF, Karrin is a maximum of 33 years old, or a maximum of 31 at the time of "Summer Knight."
In Summer Knight (2 ASF), Murphy's first husband's obituary states he was 41 years old.  Therefore, there is a minimum of ten years' difference between the two of them. 
Murphy herself says she was 17 when she and Gregory Taggart were married.

Now of course, this is assuming the far outside possibilities in age.  It's more likely that there's 10 or 11 years' difference in age between Karrin and Lisa.  The difference can't be too small, as Murphy needs to be old enough to have attained her rank.  With 29 as the upper limit in "Storm Front," I'm guessing 27 as a lower limit.

I'm puzzled as to where I got 13 as the age difference between Karrin and Gregory.  Eleven or twelve is far more likely, though I don't dismiss 13 as a possibility.

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