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the Dresden Files in a Government Town
finarvyn:
This is an excellent thread! ;D
On one hand you've got Dresden ... no one knows about this stuff.
On the other hand you've got Fringe or X-Files ... the government knows and is covering it up.
Throw in a pinch of Delta Green and you've got a supercampaign!
Brilliant!
Sh33p:
--- Quote from: finarvyn on February 28, 2010, 12:57:18 AM ---This is an excellent thread! ;D
On one hand you've got Dresden ... no one knows about this stuff.
On the other hand you've got Fringe or X-Files ... the government knows and is covering it up.
Throw in a pinch of Delta Green and you've got a supercampaign!
Brilliant!
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I am now picturing the inevitable wise-crack deathmatch between Harry and Mulder/Scully.
"It can't be real!"
"It is. See? Look at the trash can. Look at it. Loooook at iiiit...BAM!" [trash can vaporized.]
"...I would love to see you try rationalizing that, Scully. This is proof of-of everything!" [Twenty minute ramble about alien abductions and JFK.]
"...uh..."
"Imps did JFK. Sorry. Some guy with the Venators cover it up after the fact." [Cut to Cancer Man laughing madly with a flame thrower in the dark.]
"WHAT?"
"And anal probing? Fairy prank." [Cue Toot.] "Turns out there was this guy back in Utah who-"
"BUT WHAT ABOUT MY SISTER?!"
"...well...there're these things called Hobs..."
Five minutes later, they're all drinking at Mac's and Mulder is converting to new age pantheism while Scully has a nervous breakdown at her beer.
The End
...or is it?
Ihadris:
--- Quote ---Well, I'm not entirely sure what you are saying here
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Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick!
--- Quote from: Knave on February 24, 2010, 04:08:54 PM --- If it were Harry would get real support rather than just tolerance, and you really can't have a hard boiled detective story where the hero gets real help when he asks for it - they just don't work like that.
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Ah yeah I see where your coming from now, I hadn't thought of it in that way before.
Im loving the idea of the Fae signing on with the magna carta and having their own house of lords! You had any thought about adapting any other bits of English history?
Douglas:
I've been away for a few months to avoid spoilers for Changes, Hello all.
Ancalagon, Greetings to a fellow resident of Ottawa.
My personal perspective on government interaction with the supernatural is that the boot is likely to be on the other foot, supernatural beings may have need to manipulate public servants and others to ensure their secrecy and continued existence. The vampires or the fae are likely to be better at this than wizards, for the simple reason that they have no restrictions on their ability to influence and control mortals with their powers, beyond the restriction on using police or public exposure against another accorded faction. Consider the disappearance of Susan's Loup Garou tape, or Madeline's use of mind-control to move mortal agents in Turn Coat. The later case was private sector, and the former may have been as well, but the only limitation preventing interference with the government is the reference to using mortals being equivalent to going "nuclear" and I think there may be limitations on when that applies.
Consider the Special Investigations Unit from the books; they are to an extent aware and Harry's assistance has helped them battle a number of supernatural threats, some independent and some tied to the larger groups. Given that harry was able to use the help of the cops to bring down Kravos back in Grave peril it seems that the Nuclear option is permissable against anyone not covered by the Unseelie Accords. He did not bring in SI, other than Murphy, when he was facing Mavra scourge or the Lord Raith in Blood Rites; and I think that using her presence to muscle other supernaturals is going to come back to bite him. But in general, the limitation on making use or influencing the police only seems to come up when they are used against another signatory of the accords. Taking steps to ensure the continued secrecy magic and vampires is probably just regarded as good business, and if they happen to use a thrall to send the cops after some troublemakers (non-wizard PCs) then it's not an accord violation, given Harry's precedent.
Police and related services (in Ottawa the RCMP leap to mind) are likely going to be a primary focus of both control and resistance. Attempting to shush any stories about bodies drained of blood popping up in the Canal or the Ottawa river, or a rash of suicides or people who died from their endorphin or adrenaline systems overloaded with pleasure or fear, is much easier for vamps if they have a thrall or a mortal agent on the inside. Health services are also another possibility; both for discovering the truth in the data and dealing with a controlled colleague ordered into hushing up incriminating data by inhuman masters. Any characters functioning in such a setting have got to keep wondering about who they can trust; who have the enemy got to. You could be in Public Health or Transportation and still feel like you're in a spy novel.
If you want to have a specialized agency that deals with the supernatural you have to think of a few things:
1) How far up does the knowledge go? Has the Minister been briefed? Has the Prime Minister been briefed?
2) Has the organization been compromised?
3) If not, how have they avoided it?
Sh33p:
--- Quote ---1) How far up does the knowledge go? Has the Minister been briefed? Has the Prime Minister been briefed?
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Probably like "How far down does the knowledge go?" The White Council was directly involved in nuclear non-proliferation between the US and Russia, so it's probably not unreasonable to assume that at least a few mortal heads of state and heads of government know about them. We also know that the US has a special department of congress dedicated to collecting magic-related things. Word of Jim on both counts, but still. Chances are, and especially with the history of mutual defense policies the US and Canada have, Canada would be in roughly the same boat.
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