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Use of Have/Has Got in Jim's books
neminem:
--- Quote from: David Houk on May 30, 2006, 08:10:43 PM ---If it's meaningless, then why use it? ;)
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I had the flu, and it made me up last night.
I had the flu, and it made me throw last night.
Neither of those make any sense. Why do we have phrasal verbs? No idea, we just do. Now, why do we have a phrasal verb ("have got") that means the same thing as its first half ("have")? That is a good question. Not one I could answer, though.
Todd Edwards:
Think of a phrasal verb like a vector. Velocity includes info on speed and direction.
Or maybe that doesn't help. Anyway, you can talk about speed without reference to direction. Same for throw. I can tell you I threw something and maybe the direction doesn't matter. Or maybe the direction is implied. "The pitcher threw the baseball and the batter swung the bat."
Amber:
I have a pair of shoes implies that you have, now, in your possession a pair of shoes. I got a pair of shoes is more along the lines of saying that you received a pair, and makes no implications to whether or not you currently have them.
I have gotten implies that, in the past, you've received shoes. I have got or I've got seem to make the implication of of the "have" alone. But I don't think that it's proper American English in any way. It's more of a manner of speaking than something you would write.
This is, of course, assuming that I remember my grammar team practices properly.
And, yes. My high school had a competitive grammar team.
Yes.
I'm that big of a geek.
Ask me about Physics team.
C'mon. You know you want to ;)
Mickey Finn:
--- Quote from: neminem on May 30, 2006, 09:58:21 PM --- Now, why do we have a phrasal verb ("have got") that means the same thing as its first half ("have")? That is a good question. Not one I could answer, though.
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Evolution of language....language is a living thing. It is, essentially, the same as a conjunction.
FredG:
"I got shoes!" implies, to me, the getting is in the past. Present ownership is not stated.
"I have shoes!" implies, to me, the ownership is in the present.
"I have got shoes!" implies, to me, the getting is in the past, and the present ownership is asserted
And it could be just a Spoken Accent issue, too.
"Do you have anything to deal with this, Harry?"
"I HAVE got my blasting rod with me!"
As a phrase equivalent to :
"I DO have my blasting rod with me!"
(emphasis mine)
I don't know if that's a regionalism or not. I'm a Cleveland, Ohio, speaker originally, and I know you Pittsburgh people talk funny :)
-FredG
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